On 19/10/2023 12:55, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 23:49:25 -0500, Dale wrote:
That config kinda reminds me of the old grub. A title line, location of
kernel and then options. Sounds easy enough. The new grub config is
almost impossible to config by hand. They had to make a tool
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:45:10 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>>> I like rEFIind, but I recall it needs/needed a separate /boot
>>> partition if you are running LVM/RAID.
>>>
>> I have /boot on ext2, / on ext4 and rest on LVM on my main system. On
>> the 770T rig, I have /boot on ext2
On 2023-10-19, Dale wrote:
> That config kinda reminds me of the old grub. A title line, location of
> kernel and then options. Sounds easy enough. The new grub config is
> almost impossible to config by hand. They had to make a tool to do it.
> That says a lot there. ;-)
Manually configu
>
>That config kinda reminds me of the old grub. A title line, location of
>kernel and then options. Sounds easy enough. The new grub config is almost
>impossible to config by hand. They had to make a tool to do it. That says a
>lot there. ;-)
>
>Dale
>
You can still write that kind of
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:24:41 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>>> Do you mean booting from the ISO images? That's a GRUB thing, it
>>> doesn't matter how it is loaded, EFI or MBR.
>>>
>>> However, being able to do away with GRUB is, to me, a bigger benefit
>>> than not being able to boot
On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:45:10 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > I like rEFIind, but I recall it needs/needed a separate /boot
> > partition if you are running LVM/RAID.
> >
>
> I have /boot on ext2, / on ext4 and rest on LVM on my main system. On
> the 770T rig, I have /boot on ext2 I think and everything
On Thursday, 19 October 2023 12:59:06 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> Incidentally, systemd-boot can also generate and update boot menu entries
> automatically with "bootctl install" and "bootctl update" although I have
> never tried either.
Yes, that's what I use. Once your kernel is complete, with r
Michael wrote:
> On Thursday, 19 October 2023 05:49:25 BST Dale wrote:
>> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:27:28 -0500, Dale wrote:
I used cgdisk and GPT for my disk even tho it is small, only 300GBs or
so, mostly out of habit. The grub install failed and I did a search.
On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:55:43 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > That config kinda reminds me of the old grub. A title line, location
> > of kernel and then options. Sounds easy enough. The new grub config
> > is almost impossible to config by hand. They had to make a tool to
> > do it. That says
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 23:49:25 -0500, Dale wrote:
> That config kinda reminds me of the old grub. A title line, location of
> kernel and then options. Sounds easy enough. The new grub config is
> almost impossible to config by hand. They had to make a tool to do it.
> That says a lot there. ;-
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:24:41 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > Do you mean booting from the ISO images? That's a GRUB thing, it
> > doesn't matter how it is loaded, EFI or MBR.
> >
> > However, being able to do away with GRUB is, to me, a bigger benefit
> > than not being able to boot ISOs is a drawback. Use
On Thursday, 19 October 2023 00:06:43 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> If you like simple, here is a config file I use with systemd-boot
>
> version 6.1.57-gentoo
> linux /vmlinuz-6.1.57-gentoo
> options root=/dev/sda3 panic=10 net.ifnames=0 i915.enable_ips=0
>
> That's it! There is a separate file
On Thursday, 19 October 2023 05:49:25 BST Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:27:28 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >> I used cgdisk and GPT for my disk even tho it is small, only 300GBs or
> >> so, mostly out of habit. The grub install failed and I did a search. I
> >> found this
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:27:28 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> I used cgdisk and GPT for my disk even tho it is small, only 300GBs or
>> so, mostly out of habit. The grub install failed and I did a search. I
>> found this and it worked.
>>
>>
>>
>> grub-install fails with "grub-inst
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 12:49:34 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> I usually use cgdisk, or cfdisk, but they all do the same thing. Just a
>> different interface. As long as all this is documented, I'll just
>> follow it and it should work. After all, efi has been around for a long
>> w
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:27:28 -0500, Dale wrote:
> I used cgdisk and GPT for my disk even tho it is small, only 300GBs or
> so, mostly out of habit. The grub install failed and I did a search. I
> found this and it worked.
>
>
>
> grub-install fails with "grub-install: warning: this GPT parti
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote:
>>> The protective MBR and the BIOS boot partition are two different,
>>> unrelated things. The BIOS boot partition is a real partition (usually
>>> 1-2MB in size) that's present in the GPT parition table. It's used by
>>> Grub as a place to sto
On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote:
>
>> The protective MBR and the BIOS boot partition are two different,
>> unrelated things. The BIOS boot partition is a real partition (usually
>> 1-2MB in size) that's present in the GPT parition table. It's used by
>> Grub as a place to store its files.
>
> Yes, th
On Wednesday, 18 October 2023 18:45:27 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 10:23:23 +0100, Michael wrote:
> > > Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility
> > > partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't
> > > remember the exact name.
> >
> >
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 12:49:34 -0500, Dale wrote:
> I usually use cgdisk, or cfdisk, but they all do the same thing. Just a
> different interface. As long as all this is documented, I'll just
> follow it and it should work. After all, efi has been around for a long
> while now. I'm sure millions
On Wednesday, 18 October 2023 14:57:51 BST Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote:
> >> Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility
> >> partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't
> >> remember the exact name.
> >
> > Man pages of partition
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:15 PM Grant Edwards
> wrote:
>> For example, if one
>> of the links is down, Ubuntu is really fond of waiting a couple
>> mintues for it to come up before it finishes booting. [If it doesn't
>> wait for all the network interfaces, how is it going to
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote:
>
>>> Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility
>>> partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't
>>> remember the exact name.
>> Man pages of partitioning tools refer to it as "Protective MBR", althoug
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 10:23:23 +0100, Michael wrote:
> > Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility
> > partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't
> > remember the exact name.
>
> Man pages of partitioning tools refer to it as "Protective MBR",
> altho
On 2023-10-18, Rich Freeman wrote:
> Oh well, I rarely reboot so it just hasn't been on the top of my
> list of things to fix.
I don't really care much on the Ubuntu servers I maintain because they
are rarely rebooted, and their network interfaces are always up.
A couple weeks ago I was testing
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:15 PM Grant Edwards
wrote:
>
> For example, if one
> of the links is down, Ubuntu is really fond of waiting a couple
> mintues for it to come up before it finishes booting. [If it doesn't
> wait for all the network interfaces, how is it going to do all that
> cloudy crap
On 2023-10-18, Michael wrote:
>> Oh, and if you use GPT, you no longer need the MBR compatibility
>> partition, or whatever its called. I no longer need it so I can't
>> remember the exact name.
>
> Man pages of partitioning tools refer to it as "Protective MBR", although
> I've
> seen it menti
On Wednesday, 18 October 2023 08:36:06 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 21:50:35 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > > EFI is much simpler to work with. for one thing, you don't need the
> > > monster that GRUB has become.
> >
> > While I kinda dread it, it does seem that quite a while ago, it ha
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 03:15:56 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
> > I have 4 Ubuntu-based machines here and over the last 6 years I've
> > never seen a 1 minute delay to login, much less 5 minutes.
>
> I see it all the time. Two minutes is the most common delay that I run
> into, but I've seen l
On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 21:50:35 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > EFI is much simpler to work with. for one thing, you don't need the
> > monster that GRUB has become.
> While I kinda dread it, it does seem that quite a while ago, it has
> become much easier. I noticed as I went through the install of Gentoo,
On 2023-10-17, Mark Knecht wrote:
> I have 4 Ubuntu-based machines here and over the last 6 years I've
> never seen a 1 minute delay to login, much less 5 minutes.
I see it all the time. Two minutes is the most common delay that I run
into, but I've seen longer. The two-minute delay I frequently
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 13:54:47 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> I just realized, my new rig will almost certainly be efi. I kinda dread
>> that. At least it is well documented tho. Should be easy enough. I
>> hope. o_O
> EFI is much simpler to work with. for one thing, you don't ne
On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 13:54:47 -0500, Dale wrote:
> I just realized, my new rig will almost certainly be efi. I kinda dread
> that. At least it is well documented tho. Should be easy enough. I
> hope. o_O
EFI is much simpler to work with. for one thing, you don't need the
monster that GRUB has
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2023-10-17, Dale wrote:
>
>> I to find Gentoo to be much better documented. There were places where
>> the old BIOS and efi info got a little confusing but eventually I
>> figured it out. I been trying to think of a way to color code the docs
>> but I can't figure out a s
On 2023-10-17, Dale wrote:
> I to find Gentoo to be much better documented. There were places where
> the old BIOS and efi info got a little confusing but eventually I
> figured it out. I been trying to think of a way to color code the docs
> but I can't figure out a sensible way. You got BIOS an
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