Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-18 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Thursday, 2024-05-16 17:46:04 +0100, you wrote: > ... > > The homepage returned by > > > >$ eix --verbose sys-boot/elilo > >* sys-boot/elilo > > Available versions: ~3.16-r5 > > ... > >$ > > > > hints that this package is no longer maintained ... :-( > > ... >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-16 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 16 May 2024 17:41:20 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Thursday, 2024-05-16 09:26:39 +0100, you wrote: > > ... > > > > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > > > > > ... > > > > > > Still available and still working on non-uefi setups: > > > https://packages

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-16 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Thursday, 2024-05-16 09:26:39 +0100, you wrote: > ... > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > ... > > Still available and still working on non-uefi setups: > > https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-boot/lilo > > > > ... > > There's also 'sys-boot/elilo' for EFI syste

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-16 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2024-05-16, Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 16 May 2024 01:10:32 BST k...@aspodata.se wrote: >> Wol: >> > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I >> > > never let it near my systems. >> > >> > I liked lilo. And then

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-16 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 16 May 2024 01:10:32 BST k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Wol: > > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I > > > never let it near my systems. > > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > ... > > Stil

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread karl
Wol: > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I > > never let > > it near my systems. > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( ... Still available and still working on non-uefi setups: https://packages.gentoo.org/

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Wols Lists wrote: > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I never let >> it near my systems. > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > Grub isn't that bad - it's just that insists on trying to do every

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I never let it near my systems. I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( Grub isn't that bad - it's just that insists on trying to do everything itself - and if you've got at all a st

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 08:42:14 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 02/05/2024 11:46, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > When I started using Linux, the received wisdom was to keep a separate > > /boot, and leave it unmounted during normal operation. The idea was that > > a successful hacker would not, supposedly

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/05/2024 11:46, Peter Humphrey wrote: When I started using Linux, the received wisdom was to keep a separate /boot, and leave it unmounted during normal operation. The idea was that a successful hacker would not, supposedly, be able to corrupt the kernel ready for a reboot into their system.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/05/2024 10:35, Michael wrote: Besides the automation this feature affords, I find it useful to know what a partition contains without having to mount it. On GPT labelled disks I make use both of the Partition Type UUID and the Partition Name. A quick glance at the gdisk output and if need

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:45:29 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > OK, so 'boot' is for the Linux /boot directory. I was just curious > > since I had never used one. When I started using Linux, the received wisdom was to keep a separate /boot, and leave it unmounted during normal operat

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-02 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:45:29 BST Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: > The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be > 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be > 8302

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-02 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:45:29 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > >> Grant Edwards wrote: > >>> The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be > >>> 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be > >>> 8302, but I've always

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >> >>> The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be >>> 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be >>> 8302, but I've always used the same generic "Linux filesystem" type >>> for both

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be >> 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be >> 8302, but I've always used the same generic "Linux filesystem" type >> for both /home and root. >> >> Is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > >> OK.  One last update in case someone googles and runs up on this >> thread.  I'm using gdisk to display this, because I think it will do >> better in email.  If I use cgdisk, it is wider and will wrap more.  >> This is what the partition table

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > OK.  One last update in case someone googles and runs up on this > thread.  I'm using gdisk to display this, because I think it will do > better in email.  If I use cgdisk, it is wider and will wrap more.  > This is what the partition table looks like for GPT, old BIO

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > One last update.  I found a video.  They were using gdisk but the > crucial part, he got it to display the partition layout.  It was like I > described as for as the alignment thing, tiny partition with ef02 and > then carry on as usual from there.  > > I need to do this on a disk com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Wol
On 28/04/2024 17:40, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using a GPT dis

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: >> On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: >>> Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. That empty spac

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > >> and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. > >> That empty space does not exist w

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector >> and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. >> That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using >> a GPT disk label,

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. > That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using > a GPT disk label, Grub requires that you need

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-27, Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:53:25 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. To be consistent I like >> to use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my >> drives, regardless of size. > > GPT is the partition table stru