Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-05 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Mar 5, 2012 4:59 AM, "Grant" wrote: >> >> >> All my drives says this from fdisk: >> >> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes >> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-05 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Grant writes: > >> > The performance is only impacted if the sector size is something other >> >  than 512 bytes. The newer 4K sector size used by some higher density >> > drives requires that you start partitions on a sector boundary or they

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 23:33:20 +0700 Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Mar 5, 2012 11:04 PM, "Alex Schuster" wrote: > > > > Grant writes: > > > > > > The performance is only impacted if the sector size is > > > > something other than 512 bytes. The newer 4K sector size used > > > > by some higher density dr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-05 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 5, 2012 11:04 PM, "Alex Schuster" wrote: > > Grant writes: > > > > The performance is only impacted if the sector size is something other > > > than 512 bytes. The newer 4K sector size used by some higher density > > > drives requires that you start partitions on a sector boundary or they

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-05 Thread Alex Schuster
Grant writes: > > The performance is only impacted if the sector size is something other > >  than 512 bytes. The newer 4K sector size used by some higher density > > drives requires that you start partitions on a sector boundary or they > > will perform badly. There isn't an actually performance

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-05 Thread Alex Schuster
Pandu Poluan writes: > On Mar 5, 2012 3:37 AM, "Alex Schuster" wrote: > > Now I have a related question: My new seagate Barracuda > > Green 2TB ST2000DL003-9VT166 drive has 4096 bytes per sector, but uses > > something that is called SmartAlign(TM) [*]. Seagate says that there > > are no perform

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 5, 2012 5:39 AM, "Grant" wrote: > > > So fdisk used to enforce a block 63 start point and now it enforces a > 2048 start point? fdisk is the one doing this? > > - Grant > Yes. Like I posted before (and explained in the article I linked), if you turn off the compatibility mode, you can pus

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 5, 2012 5:10 AM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote: > > > Correct. Those drives are all the same style as you've > been using for years. If partitions start at 63, that's just an msdos > convention. For reasons I've never understood, Windows liked to reserve > the first 32k for some purpose or other. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 5, 2012 4:59 AM, "Grant" wrote: > > > All my drives says this from fdisk: > > Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > > So it doesn't matter where the first partition starts? > Olde

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 5, 2012 3:15 AM, "Grant" wrote: > > [snip] > >> HOWEVER, make sure that all partitions begin at multiples of 8 (e.g., 64, > >> 72, 80, and so on); this will save you a lot of grief if it happens that the > >> hard disk you're using has 4KiB-sectors. [1] > > > > > > > > From what I recall o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 5, 2012 3:37 AM, "Alex Schuster" wrote: > > Grant writes: > > > Just to confirm, starting at block 2048 is OK? > > Yes, if it's divisible by 8, it's okay. That's because 512 * 8 = 4096, so > every 8th 512-byte block starts on a 4096 block boundary. > > Now I have a related question: My new

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Grant
>> >> [snip] >> 1. fdisk won't let me specify a start block before 2048 even >> though I deleted all partitions. >> >> >>> >> >>> That's normal. It's a long story, but Windows Vista and Windows 7 >> >>> expects the first partition to start at sector 2048. >> >>> >> >>> You can force

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:56:23 -0800 Grant wrote: > >> [snip] > 1. fdisk won't let me specify a start block before 2048 even > though I deleted all partitions. > > >>> > >>> That's normal. It's a long story, but Windows Vista and Windows 7 > >>> expects the first partition to start at

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Grant
>> [snip] 1. fdisk won't let me specify a start block before 2048 even though I deleted all partitions. >>> >>> That's normal. It's a long story, but Windows Vista and Windows 7 expects >>> the first partition to start at sector 2048. >>> >>> You can force a lower number by toggling

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Grant wrote: > [snip] >>> 1. fdisk won't let me specify a start block before 2048 even though I >>> deleted all partitions. >>> >> >> That's normal. It's a long story, but Windows Vista and Windows 7 expects >> the first partition to start at sector 2048. >> >> You

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Grant
[snip] >> 1. fdisk won't let me specify a start block before 2048 even though I >> deleted all partitions. >> > > That's normal. It's a long story, but Windows Vista and Windows 7 expects > the first partition to start at sector 2048. > > You can force a lower number by toggling "DOS compatibility"

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Alex Schuster
Grant writes: > Just to confirm, starting at block 2048 is OK? Yes, if it's divisible by 8, it's okay. That's because 512 * 8 = 4096, so every 8th 512-byte block starts on a 4096 block boundary. Now I have a related question: My new seagate Barracuda Green 2TB ST2000DL003-9VT166 drive has 4096 b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Grant
[snip] >> HOWEVER, make sure that all partitions begin at multiples of 8 (e.g., 64, >> 72, 80, and so on); this will save you a lot of grief if it happens that the >> hard disk you're using has 4KiB-sectors. [1] > > > > From what I recall of looking at that toy's specs, it's running on an > SSD, s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Grant
> [snip] >>> I enabled some more kernel options under USB Network Adapters and it's >>> working now.  The install is about done but there were a few >>> peculiarities: >>> >>> 1. fdisk won't let me specify a start block before 2048 even though I >>> deleted all partitions. >>> >> >> That's normal.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-04 Thread Grant
[snip] >> I enabled some more kernel options under USB Network Adapters and it's >> working now.  The install is about done but there were a few >> peculiarities: >> >> 1. fdisk won't let me specify a start block before 2048 even though I >> deleted all partitions. >> > > That's normal. It's a long

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-03 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Mar 4, 2012 12:54 AM, "Grant" wrote: >> >> >>> I just received the new Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook and I'm trying to >> >>> install Gentoo but I can't get install-amd64-minimal-20120223.iso to >> >>> boot via a USB key. >> >> >> >> Have you tes

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-03 Thread Pandu Poluan
Gah. I must be too tired; what I sent earlier was supposed to go another list. Sorry for the mistake, folks. Rgds, On Mar 4, 2012 1:22 AM, "Pandu Poluan" wrote: > Oh iya, satu lagi yang perlu dihindari: wifi AP nya HP ProCurve / HP > Networking. Nggak stabil. (Tapi kalau switch Layer 2 dan Laye

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-03 Thread Pandu Poluan
Oh iya, satu lagi yang perlu dihindari: wifi AP nya HP ProCurve / HP Networking. Nggak stabil. (Tapi kalau switch Layer 2 dan Layer 3 nya, HP ProCurve highly recommended). ((Ini berdasarkan hasil pengalaman saya di kantor yang sekarang.)) Rgds, On Mar 4, 2012 1:15 AM, "Pandu Poluan" wrote: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-03 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 4, 2012 1:13 AM, "Pandu Poluan" wrote: > > > On Mar 4, 2012 12:54 AM, "Grant" wrote: > > > > > > I enabled some more kernel options under USB Network Adapters and it's > > working now. The install is about done but there were a few > > peculiarities: > > > > 1. fdisk won't let me specify

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-03 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 4, 2012 12:54 AM, "Grant" wrote: > > >>> I just received the new Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook and I'm trying to > >>> install Gentoo but I can't get install-amd64-minimal-20120223.iso to > >>> boot via a USB key. > >> > >> Have you tested your boot USB keys on another machine? > > > > Gentoo is in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-03 Thread Grant
>>> I just received the new Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook and I'm trying to >>> install Gentoo but I can't get install-amd64-minimal-20120223.iso to >>> boot via a USB key. >> >> Have you tested your boot USB keys on another machine? > > Gentoo is installed but I can't get my USB->ethernet adapter to bring

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-02 Thread Grant
>> I just received the new Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook and I'm trying to >> install Gentoo but I can't get install-amd64-minimal-20120223.iso to >> boot via a USB key. > > Have you tested your boot USB keys on another machine? Gentoo is installed but I can't get my USB->ethernet adapter to bring up an e

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook

2012-03-02 Thread walt
On 03/01/2012 06:12 PM, Grant wrote: > I just received the new Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook and I'm trying to > install Gentoo but I can't get install-amd64-minimal-20120223.iso to > boot via a USB key. Have you tested your boot USB keys on another machine?