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On Sunday, 21 July 2024 16:20:54 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Oopsie, I found this mail in my drafts folder just now, where it’s been > sitting since the ninth. Perhaps I had to pause writing, but now I can’t > remember anymore. So I’ll just send it off. ;-) > > Am Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 12:02:47

Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor, new problem. Everything LARGE O_O

Oopsie, I found this mail in my drafts folder just now, where it’s been sitting since the ninth. Perhaps I had to pause writing, but now I can’t remember anymore. So I’ll just send it off. ;-) Am Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 12:02:47AM +0100 schrieb Michael: > On Monday, 8 July 2024 21:21:19 BST Frank

Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor, new problem. Everything LARGE O_O

Howdy, A rather large update.  It's got issues still but right now, I'm typing on the new rig which is not my old main rig, unless something happens to this new thing.  Old main rig could find itself back again.  Basically, I'm on the Ryzen thing.  :-D First, I couldn't open any of my encrypted d

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Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 14 July 2024 10:44:30 BST Dale wrote: >> Well, this was about codec support. It seems I had none of them >> available. I likely enabled more than needed but if it isn't needed, it >> just ignores them, so I've read anyway. This is a sort list. >> >> [*] Support initi

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On Sunday, 14 July 2024 10:44:30 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 14 July 2024 06:08:27 BST Dale wrote: > >> I then plugged the TV into the new rig. KDE saw that right away and > >> popped up a screen wanting to know what to do. I just closed it and > >> went to KDE settings then D

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Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 14 July 2024 06:08:27 BST Dale wrote: > >> I then plugged the TV into the new rig. KDE saw that right away and >> popped up a screen wanting to know what to do. I just closed it and >> went to KDE settings then Display and Monitor section. I arranged the >> monitors l

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On Sunday, 14 July 2024 06:08:27 BST Dale wrote: > I then plugged the TV into the new rig. KDE saw that right away and > popped up a screen wanting to know what to do. I just closed it and > went to KDE settings then Display and Monitor section. I arranged the > monitors like I wanted, several

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Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 11 July 2024 07:23:58 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> As far as I know SDDM is using the file(s) in /usr/share/sddm/scripts/ to >>> start a login GUI. I haven't looked into how far can these be tweaked for >>> a dual monitor setup and if they even have a 'primar

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On Thursday, 11 July 2024 07:23:58 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > As far as I know SDDM is using the file(s) in /usr/share/sddm/scripts/ to > > start a login GUI. I haven't looked into how far can these be tweaked for > > a dual monitor setup and if they even have a 'primary' monitor concep

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Michael wrote: > On Wednesday, 10 July 2024 12:44:28 BST Dale wrote: > >> It sounds like you recommend me using xorg.conf and not xrandr. I was >> thinking that using both would also cause a clash. Basically, I need >> one tool to do this. That's why I picked xorg.conf for long term, >> xrandr i

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On Wednesday, 10 July 2024 12:44:28 BST Dale wrote: > It sounds like you recommend me using xorg.conf and not xrandr. I was > thinking that using both would also cause a clash. Basically, I need > one tool to do this. That's why I picked xorg.conf for long term, > xrandr is just for now or a se

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Michael wrote: > On Wednesday, 10 July 2024 06:00:41 BST Dale wrote: >> New subthread. Slightly new situation. > [snip ...] >> On the old LG monitor, when I first plugged up the new monitor, it >> wouldn't power up from standby. It wouldn't even when I connected only >> the new monitor. The BIO

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On Wednesday, 10 July 2024 06:00:41 BST Dale wrote: > New subthread. Slightly new situation. [snip ...] > On the old LG monitor, when I first plugged up the new monitor, it > wouldn't power up from standby. It wouldn't even when I connected only > the new monitor. The BIOS would beep that it ca

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New subthread.  Slightly new situation.  New monitor came in today.  It seems the truck from Memphis got delayed and didn't arrive in time for yesterday.  No idea why it took over 14 or 15 hours to travel what would take no more than 2 or 3 hours even by truck.  Maybe the truck broke down.  Oh, mo

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Am Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 06:26:26PM +0100 schrieb Michael: > Back to the previous topic, I have not yet found a case where changing the > scale by means of the desktop settings, arrives at non-blurred fonts. The > clearest sharpest fonts are always rendered at the native monitor resolution, > a

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On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 5:27 AM Dale wrote: > I don't know about cell phones but if using the youtube app, I'd think > it would know what you are using and the resolution too. To me, it > looks like it would be best for everyone to only download what is needed > and no more. It saves bandwidth o

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On Monday, 8 July 2024 15:52:03 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday 8 July 2024 13:59:27 BST Wol wrote: > > On 08/07/2024 13:27, Dale wrote: > > > I don't know about cell phones but if using the youtube app, I'd think > > > it would know what you are using and the resolution too. > > > > BBC iPl

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On Monday 8 July 2024 10:56:44 BST Michael wrote: > The rule of thumb is to come as close as possible to the TV screen until you > start seeing different pixels. Then you back off a little bit and plonk > your armchair there. Correction: That's A rule of thumb. It's not what's recommended by TV

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On Monday 8 July 2024 13:59:27 BST Wol wrote: > On 08/07/2024 13:27, Dale wrote: > > I don't know about cell phones but if using the youtube app, I'd think > > it would know what you are using and the resolution too. > > BBC iPlayer, ITVx. Along with the other Freeview apps for Channels 4 and 5.

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On 08/07/2024 13:27, Dale wrote: I don't know about cell phones but if using the youtube app, I'd think it would know what you are using and the resolution too. BBC iPlayer, ITVx. Along with the other Freeview apps for Channels 4 and 5. To me, it looks like it would be best for everyone to

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Michael wrote: > On Monday, 8 July 2024 00:57:40 BST Dale wrote: >> Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >>> Am Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 05:10:18PM -0500 schrieb Dale: It's hi res and a good deal. :-D >>> Please define hi res. Full HD at 32″ is definitely not hi res. ;-P >>> It’s about as much

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On 08/07/2024 11:48, Michael wrote: Devices send a viewport size to the server to fetch scaled images and fonts as required, instead of downloading a huge resolution only for it to be consumed on the small screen of a phone or tablet. I'm not sure how the screen size information is shared betwee

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On 08/07/2024 10:57, Michael wrote: will show you what different resolutions the streaming server offers and you can then select the one you need/prefer. Of course this is conditional on yt- dlp being capable of parsing the stream you want to download and on the streaming server offering differe

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On Monday, 8 July 2024 00:57:40 BST Dale wrote: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 05:10:18PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> It's hi res and a good deal. :-D > > > > Please define hi res. Full HD at 32″ is definitely not hi res. ;-P > > It’s about as much as CRTs b

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On Monday, 8 July 2024 00:14:59 BST Wol wrote: > On 07/07/2024 23:29, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > It also goes into the other direction: people these days™ watch 4K movies > > on their phones. Why, just why? Even if the screen can display it > > physically, their eyes cannot resolve that fine det

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On Sunday, 7 July 2024 23:29:21 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 05:10:18PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > It's hi res and a good deal. :-D > > >>> > > >>> Please define hi res. Full HD at 32″ is definitely not hi res. ;-P > > >>> It’s about as much as CRTs back in the day,

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Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 05:10:18PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> It's hi res and a good deal.  :-D  > Please define hi res. Full HD at 32″ is definitely not hi res. ;-P > It’s about as much as CRTs back in the day, close to 1024×768 at 17″. Well, I still cons

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Jack wrote: > On 2024.07.07 18:53, Dale wrote: >> Going to cook a box of mac n cheese for supper.  I haven't had that in a >> while.  ;-)  I wonder, what would it taste like with some basil in it.  >> ROFL  > Would be great if you made pesto out of the basil. > > I mostly add basil to tomato and

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On 2024.07.07 18:53, Dale wrote: Going to cook a box of mac n cheese for supper.  I haven't had that in a while.  ;-)  I wonder, what would it taste like with some basil in it.  ROFL  Would be great if you made pesto out of the basil.

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On 07/07/2024 23:29, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: It also goes into the other direction: people these days™ watch 4K movies on their phones. Why, just why? Even if the screen can display it physically, their eyes cannot resolve that fine detail, because the pixels are too small. What's worse, as f

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Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 02:06:04PM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: >> On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 1:09 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >>> Am Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 07:32:49PM -0500 schrieb Dale: >> >>> Well don’t mix up frame rate and scaling. 75 Hz vs. 60 is quite subtle, >> you >>

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Am Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 05:10:18PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > It's hi res and a good deal.  :-D  > >>> Please define hi res. Full HD at 32″ is definitely not hi res. ;-P > >>> It’s about as much as CRTs back in the day, close to 1024×768 at 17″. > >> Well, I still consider 1080P hi res.  That's wh

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Am Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 02:06:04PM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: > On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 1:09 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > > Am Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 07:32:49PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > > > > Well don’t mix up frame rate and scaling. 75 Hz vs. 60 is quite subtle, > you > > might not even notice

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Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 04:12:11PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > It's hi res and a good deal.  :-D  >>> Please define hi res. Full HD at 32″ is definitely not hi res. ;-P >>> It’s about as much as CRTs back in the day, close to 1024×768 at 17″. >> Well, I still consider 108

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On 2024.07.07 17:06, Mark Knecht wrote: [snip...] So I understand the 14% calculation, but help me understand the underlying technology. Is the DPI how a font file, which I presume is some fixed size, like 25x25, gets scaled onto the screen? I'm not clear about the conversion from the font t

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Am Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 04:12:11PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> It's hi res and a good deal.  :-D  > > Please define hi res. Full HD at 32″ is definitely not hi res. ;-P > > It’s about as much as CRTs back in the day, close to 1024×768 at 17″. > > Well, I still consider 1080P hi res.  That's what I g

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Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 1:09 PM Frank Steinmetzger > wrote: > > > > Am Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 07:32:49PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > > > > Well don’t mix up frame rate and scaling. 75 Hz vs. 60 is quite > subtle, you > > might not even notice 90 Hz. But cha

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Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 07:32:49PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> Michael wrote: >>> On Saturday, 6 July 2024 17:11:23 BST Dale wrote: Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:59:30 BST Dale wrote: >> Now the monitor on my main rig is a bit older too. Maybe 6

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On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 1:09 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 07:32:49PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > Well don’t mix up frame rate and scaling. 75 Hz vs. 60 is quite subtle, you > might not even notice 90 Hz. But changing DPI from 80 to 70 will mean an > increase in fonts by 14

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On 07/07/2024 21:08, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: I read once where a person had a monitor that had a great picture at 60Hz refresh.  Even tho it would work at 75Hz, the picture wasn't as good.  It seems that something didn't like that 75Hz setting.  That person used the 60Hz setting.  Some things a

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Am Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 07:32:49PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > Michael wrote: > > On Saturday, 6 July 2024 17:11:23 BST Dale wrote: > >> Michael wrote: > >>> On Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:59:30 BST Dale wrote: > Now the monitor on my main rig is a bit older too. Maybe 6 or 7 > years??? Should

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Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 6 July 2024 17:11:23 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:59:30 BST Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 12:44 PM Dale > wrote: > > >> I tried it with those options

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On Saturday, 6 July 2024 17:11:23 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:59:30 BST Dale wrote: > >> Mark Knecht wrote: > >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 12:44 PM Dale >>> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > I tried it with those options and without. Nei

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Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:59:30 BST Dale wrote: >> Mark Knecht wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 12:44 PM Dale >> > wrote: >>> >>> I tried it with those options and without. Neither changed anything. I originally tried it with no xorg.con

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On Saturday, 6 July 2024 10:59:30 BST Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 12:44 PM Dale > > wrote: > > > > > > > I tried it with those options and without. Neither changed anything. I > > > originally tried it with no xorg.conf at all. I wa

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Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 12:44 PM Dale > wrote: > > > I tried it with those options and without.  Neither changed anything.  I > > originally tried it with no xorg.conf at all.  I was hoping maybe the > > Nvidia GUI thing would adjust things.  I

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Michael wrote: > On Wednesday, 3 July 2024 10:22:33 BST Dale wrote: > >> Another update. I rebooted several times to make sure whether things >> would be consistent. Most of the time, it came up as it should. Some >> times, not so much. When I had just the new Samsung monitor connected, >> it w

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On Wednesday, 3 July 2024 10:22:33 BST Dale wrote: > Another update. I rebooted several times to make sure whether things > would be consistent. Most of the time, it came up as it should. Some > times, not so much. When I had just the new Samsung monitor connected, > it was consistent. When I

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Dale wrote: > Micheal and I had a email or two off list.  This is what I think the > problem was.  Nvidia and KDE was clashing with each other.  I ended up > connecting both the new monitor and old LG that gave me so much > trouble.  I think Nvidia wanted to set the first port as primary but KDE >

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Dale wrote: > > I tried it with those options and without.  Neither changed anything.  I > originally tried it with no xorg.conf at all.  I was hoping maybe the > Nvidia GUI thing would adjust things.  I may try that again.  No > xorg.conf and use the GUI thing.  That's what I use to set up my TV a

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On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 12:44 PM Dale wrote: > I tried it with those options and without. Neither changed anything. I > originally tried it with no xorg.conf at all. I was hoping maybe the > Nvidia GUI thing would adjust things. I may try that again. No > xorg.conf and use the GUI thing. Tha

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Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:58:59 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> New monitor came in. Found it on my porch. Unboxed it and hooked it >> up. Started with no xorg.conf file. It's high res, plasma comes up so >> all that is fine. Now comes the problem. Everything is HUGE. Even

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On Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:58:59 BST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > New monitor came in. Found it on my porch. Unboxed it and hooked it > up. Started with no xorg.conf file. It's high res, plasma comes up so > all that is fine. Now comes the problem. Everything is HUGE. Even on > SDDM screen, it'

[gentoo-user] New monitor, new problem. Everything LARGE O_O

Howdy, New monitor came in.  Found it on my porch.  Unboxed it and hooked it up.  Started with no xorg.conf file.  It's high res, plasma comes up so all that is fine.  Now comes the problem.  Everything is HUGE.  Even on SDDM screen, it's like it is zoomed in or something.  Icons are huge, fonts a