Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:56:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > /var/tmp/portage should be at least 1G on a modern system, 6G+ if > building mozilla stuff and OOo is something you intend to do. IMO PORTAGE_TMPDIR should not be on such an important filesystem as /var. Having system programs unable to

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 June 2009 22:24:29 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 21:56:04 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > > There's a few guidlelines one can give (but only a few). The variables > > tend to be large than the amounts with guidelines though. > > > > /var/tmp/portage should be at least 1G on

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-12 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 21:56:04 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > There's a few guidlelines one can give (but only a few). The variables tend > to be large than the amounts with guidelines though. > > /var/tmp/portage should be at least 1G on a modern system, 6G+ if building > mozilla stuff and OOo is som

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 June 2009 18:05:29 Dale wrote: > Alan's point is, there is no way for us to know that. Example, I > sometimes use http-replicator on my machine which is placed in /var. > Therefore, that alone could need 2 to 3GBs. If you use ccache, then add > some more. Also, doesn't portage use

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-12 Thread Dale
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > On Friday 12 June 2009, 12:58, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > >> The original question was "how big should /var be?" and the correct >> answer to that question is "mu" (google it) >> >> If we had the output of "df -h" and "du -sh /var/*" plus a description >> of what the machine

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-12 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Friday 12 June 2009, 12:58, Alan McKinnon wrote: > The original question was "how big should /var be?" and the correct > answer to that question is "mu" (google it) > > If we had the output of "df -h" and "du -sh /var/*" plus a description > of what the machine actually does, some general advic

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 June 2009 12:48:24 KH wrote: > bn schrieb: > > Isn't "do A if you are in situation X , because of Z" the right pattern? > > > > m. > > That's only if situation x is constant and absolutely known to the one > replying. But then it might not be of any use for somebody else. Most > likely

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-12 Thread KH
bn schrieb: > > Isn't "do A if you are in situation X , because of Z" the right pattern? > > m. > That's only if situation x is constant and absolutely known to the one replying. But then it might not be of any use for somebody else. Most likely there will not be a second person with the exac

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-12 Thread KH
Alexander Pilipovsky schrieb: > bn and KH, exuse me if I send not a good question, I have no many > experience yet :) > > That's where all of us started on day ;-) kh

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Mick
2009/6/11 Alexander Pilipovsky : > bn and KH, exuse me if I send not a good question, I have no many experience > yet :) (try to avoid top-posts in this mailing list) I think it has already been suggested: Use logrotate to keep your logs down to a sensible size. Also, you may want to empty ccac

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Alexander Pilipovsky
bn and KH, exuse me if I send not a good question, I have no many experience yet :) bn wrote: > KH ha scritto: > > >> I totaly do agree with you. There has been nothing indicated to give a >> one out of one answer. In case someone is a noob, ( I am still one >> because I don't no anything about

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread bn
KH ha scritto: > I totaly do agree with you. There has been nothing indicated to give a > one out of one answer. In case someone is a noob, ( I am still one > because I don't no anything about how everything is working) what you > just wrote is the answer. Like what are your needs and what resurce

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 00:44:51 schrieb Philip Webb: > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: > > > But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? > > > > I haven't followed this thread in detail, but has anyone s

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 00:44:51 schrieb Philip Webb: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: > > But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? > > I haven't followed this thread in detail, but has anyone suggested LVM ? No. I'm so used to it I can't even imagine t

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread KH
Alan McKinnon schrieb: > On Wednesday 10 June 2009 23:24:50 KH wrote: >> Alan McKinnon schrieb: >>> On Wednesday 10 June 2009 21:50:27 Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? >>> As much as you need. >>> >>> There's only one person who can determine tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Dale
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009 22:49:39 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > >> my /var is 36gb in size. >> > > Mine has only 2. > > Bye... > > Dirk > Mine is about 300MBs right now. It has been 1GB before tho. This is a desktop rig so no server stuff here. Dale :

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Philip Webb
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: > But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? I haven't followed this thread in detail, but has anyone suggested LVM ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, P

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: > But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? This depends on your usage, of course, and for what purpose you expect to use /var. If you run a server with lots of logs, like a high-traffic web server, you may want to ensure /var

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 June 2009 23:24:50 KH wrote: > Alan McKinnon schrieb: > > On Wednesday 10 June 2009 21:50:27 Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: > >> But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? > > > > As much as you need. > > > > There's only one person who can determine that. That person is you.

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread KH
Alan McKinnon schrieb: > On Wednesday 10 June 2009 21:50:27 Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: >> But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? > > As much as you need. > > There's only one person who can determine that. That person is you. > > > Hi, I am sorry but I think if someone asks ab

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009 22:49:39 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > my /var is 36gb in size. Mine has only 2. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 10 June 2009 21:50:27 Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: > > But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? > > As much as you need. > > There's only one person who can determine that. That person is you. my /var is 36gb in size. But I a

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Dale
KH wrote: > Dirk Heinrichs schrieb: > >> Am Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009 20:55:16 schrieb Paul Hartman: >> >> >>> I had a similar problem, 100% cpu usage caused by a daemon that did >>> not respond well when network connection was lost. My >>> /var/log/messages grew over 60GB in a few hours with t

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 10 June 2009 21:50:27 Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: > But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? As much as you need. There's only one person who can determine that. That person is you. > > Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > > Am Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009 20:55:16 schrieb Paul Hartman: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009 21:56:21 schrieb KH: > Well something creating that much messages is just buggi! The cpu will > be on havy duty no diffrence where /var is mounted. This is a bug which > should not happen. But if it happens, it only fills /var! Bye... Dirk signature.asc Descrip

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009 20:55:16 schrieb Paul Hartman: > >> I had a similar problem, 100% cpu usage caused by a daemon that did >> not respond well when network connection was lost. My >> /var/log/messages grew over 60GB in a few hours with

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread KH
Dirk Heinrichs schrieb: > Am Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009 20:55:16 schrieb Paul Hartman: > >> I had a similar problem, 100% cpu usage caused by a daemon that did >> not respond well when network connection was lost. My >> /var/log/messages grew over 60GB in a few hours with the same message >> repeated t

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Alexander Pilipovsky
But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009 20:55:16 schrieb Paul Hartman: > > >> I had a similar problem, 100% cpu usage caused by a daemon that did >> not respond well when network connection was lost. My >> /var/log/messages grew over

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009 20:55:16 schrieb Paul Hartman: > I had a similar problem, 100% cpu usage caused by a daemon that did > not respond well when network connection was lost. My > /var/log/messages grew over 60GB in a few hours with the same message > repeated tens of millions of times. Well,

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Alexander Pilipovsky
Paul Hartman написав(ла): > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Alexander > Pilipovsky wrote: > >> 2009/6/10 Justin >> >>> Alexander Pilipovsky schrieb: >>> >>> >>> You have something big in /var. Check /var/tmp/portage or /var/log. >>> >>> Alos test sys-fs/ncdu or similar tools. >>> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Alexander Pilipovsky
Dale написав(ла): > Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: > >> > > If you unmount /home, does any file show up under /home then? Keep in > mind, if you have files in for example /home then mount a new partition > on /home, the old files are still on the root partition. It just mount > /home on to

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: > > > 2009/6/10 Justin >> >> Alexander Pilipovsky schrieb: >> >> >> You have something big in /var. Check /var/tmp/portage or /var/log. >> >> Alos test sys-fs/ncdu or similar tools. >> > > Thanks, it's was /var/log/messages that had

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Dale
Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: > I cannot understand whats doing... :( > All day smbd loaded my CPU and now GNOME said me, that I have not free > space on /! Really, > sh-3.2# df -h > Файлова система Розм Вик Дост Вик% змонтований на > /dev/sda2 28G 28G 0 100% / > udev

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Alexander Pilipovsky
2009/6/10 Justin > Alexander Pilipovsky schrieb: > > > You have something big in /var. Check /var/tmp/portage or /var/log. > > Alos test sys-fs/ncdu or similar tools. > > Thanks, it's was /var/log/messages that had 11 GB and was not opened by any editor. -- Alexander Pilipovsky aka Engrave

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Justin
Alexander Pilipovsky schrieb: > I cannot understand whats doing... :( > All day smbd loaded my CPU and now GNOME said me, that I have not free > space on /! Really, > sh-3.2# df -h > Файлова система Розм Вик Дост Вик% змонтований на > /dev/sda2 28G 28G 0 100% / > udev

[gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-10 Thread Alexander Pilipovsky
I cannot understand whats doing... :( All day smbd loaded my CPU and now GNOME said me, that I have not free space on /! Really, sh-3.2# df -h Файлова система Розм Вик Дост Вик% змонтований на /dev/sda2 28G 28G 0 100% / udev 10M 192K 9,9M 2% /dev /de