=== On Wed, 08/12, Paul Hartman wrote: ===
> I seem to feel that it's more mature, too. I haven't stopped using it,
> but in the last 5 years that I've been using it, it has definitely
> gotten much easier and more manageable thanks to the hard work of so
> many people.
===
Oh, yes. It seems the
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:41:55 +0600, Mike Kazantsev wrote:
> > I did, it is passed the install directory as an argument, so I looked
> > at the kernel makefile and found it uses INSTALL_PATH to determine
> > this. I originally thought about modifying installkernel, but it's
> > good that that isn't
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:31:31 +0100
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> I did, it is passed the install directory as an argument, so I looked
> at the kernel makefile and found it uses INSTALL_PATH to determine
> this. I originally thought about modifying installkernel, but it's
> good that that isn't needed b
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Dale wrote:
> Dan Farrell wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:54:52 -0500
>> Dale wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'm starting to picture my 3/4 ton
>>> pick-up on top of that DSL box. It's starting to look pretty darn
>>> good too. Would sort of miss the ole truck tho.
>>>
>>>
>>
Dan Farrell wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:54:52 -0500
> Dale wrote:
>
>
>> I'm starting to picture my 3/4 ton
>> pick-up on top of that DSL box. It's starting to look pretty darn
>> good too. Would sort of miss the ole truck tho.
>>
>>
>
> But then you'll be back to dialup indefinitel
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:54:52 -0500
Dale wrote:
> I'm starting to picture my 3/4 ton
> pick-up on top of that DSL box. It's starting to look pretty darn
> good too. Would sort of miss the ole truck tho.
>
But then you'll be back to dialup indefinitely
... i wonder if you could get high
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:46:24 +0600, Mike Kazantsev wrote:
> > I question the wisdom of installing kernels in a directory intended
> > for bootloader files, but if you really must...
> >
> > INSTALL_PATH=/boot/grub make install
>
> I'd also add that you can always look at /sbin/installkernel an
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:59:53 +0100
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:46:16 -0700 (PDT), BRM wrote:
>
> > $ make install
> >
> > supposes you are installing to the standard location.
> > I forget why off hand - probably due to the conversion to gentoo on
> > the machine a while back
bn wrote:
>
> Oh no, other packages I more or less regularly update -now I'm just
> behind with Xorg 1.5 because of all the horror stories I've heard on
> this list.
>
>
>
Oh lets not even start on xorg-server-1.5. I already have a bug up my
butt about AT&T and DSL.
I think I mentioned, -hal
Dan Farrell wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:22:31 -0500
> Dale wrote:
>
>
>> I'm in the process of switching
>> from dial-up to DSL. :-D :-D
>>
>
> Running gentoo on dialup for so long, you must be the most patient
> person in existence.
>
>
>
Wll, they are testing my pat
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:19:41 +0100, Stroller wrote:
>
>
>> I don't know why anyone would choose to compile & install the kernel
>> any way other than manually. It's only a handful of commands, after all.
>>
>
> So you trust make to supervise the building of a couple
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:07:22 +0100, Stroller wrote:
> Why does everyone replying to my post snip the part in which I said
> that I'm an old dog?
We were bing polite :)
--
Neil Bothwick
Never argue with an idiot. First, they bring you down to their level.
Then they beat you with experience.
Stroller ha scritto:
>
> On 12 Aug 2009, at 12:43, bn wrote:
>>> ...
>>> Yes, that seems to be the usual reason users leave Gentoo:
>>> like owning a dog, you have to find time to maintain/exercise it.
>>
>> I am starting to be in trouble using Gentoo for this very reason. ...
>>
>> So I am becomi
On 12 Aug 2009, at 21:58, Mike Edenfield wrote:
I don't know why anyone would choose to compile & install the
kernel any
way other than manually. It's only a handful of commands, after all.
$ make && make modules_install
$ cp arch/x86/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-hardened-r1-womba
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:46:16 -0700 (PDT), BRM wrote:
> $ make install
>
> supposes you are installing to the standard location.
> I forget why off hand - probably due to the conversion to gentoo on the
> machine a while back - but I'm installing to /boot/grub, not /boot. So
> far as I am aware (I
> From: Mike Edenfield
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:58:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Knock on wood
>
On 8/12/2009 4:19 PM, Stroller wrote:
> > On 12 Aug 2009, at 15:20, Dale wrote:
> >>> ...
> >>> mas
On 8/12/2009 5:08 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Mittwoch 12 August 2009, Mike Edenfield wrote:
$ make&& make modules_install&& make install
too much to type.
make all modules_install install
is much better.
I always forget that the 'all' target (typically) does the same thing as
j
On Mittwoch 12 August 2009, Mike Edenfield wrote:
> On 8/12/2009 4:19 PM, Stroller wrote:
> > On 12 Aug 2009, at 15:20, Dale wrote:
> >>> ...
> >>> maske install does that for you, it also sets up the vmlinuz and
> >>> vmlinuz.old symlinks so you don't need to mess with your GRUB config.
> >>
> >>
On 8/12/2009 4:19 PM, Stroller wrote:
On 12 Aug 2009, at 15:20, Dale wrote:
...
maske install does that for you, it also sets up the vmlinuz and
vmlinuz.old symlinks so you don't need to mess with your GRUB config.
But it doesn't do it the way that I do. I have used it a few times but
it didn
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:19:41 +0100, Stroller wrote:
> I don't know why anyone would choose to compile & install the kernel
> any way other than manually. It's only a handful of commands, after all.
So you trust make to supervise the building of a couple of million lines
of source code, but not
On 12 Aug 2009, at 15:20, Dale wrote:
...
maske install does that for you, it also sets up the vmlinuz and
vmlinuz.old symlinks so you don't need to mess with your GRUB config.
But it doesn't do it the way that I do. I have used it a few times
but
it didn't work like I do manually.
+1
I
On 12 Aug 2009, at 12:43, bn wrote:
...
Yes, that seems to be the usual reason users leave Gentoo:
like owning a dog, you have to find time to maintain/exercise it.
I am starting to be in trouble using Gentoo for this very reason. ...
So I am becoming very reluctant in updating critical compo
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:22:31 -0500
Dale wrote:
> I'm in the process of switching
> from dial-up to DSL. :-D :-D
Running gentoo on dialup for so long, you must be the most patient
person in existence.
On Mittwoch 12 August 2009, Ward Poelmans wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:51, Volker Armin
>
> Hemmann wrote:
> > systemrescuecd is even more helpfull
>
> Yes, but a ubuntu (or any distro) on an usb drive is more usefull
> IMHO. An usb drive is smaller and less fragile then a cd so it's a
> bet
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:51, Volker Armin
Hemmann wrote:
> systemrescuecd is even more helpfull
Yes, but a ubuntu (or any distro) on an usb drive is more usefull
IMHO. An usb drive is smaller and less fragile then a cd so it's a
better choice when you are very mobile. It also has the advantage o
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:20:34 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >> I do it this way. I keep at least two working kernels in /boot. If
> >> I need to, I can edit the grub boot line to boot the old kernel if
> >> the new one doesn't work. I do NOT use the make install thing. I
> >> do mine manually and name t
Ward Poelmans ha scritto:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:28, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
>>> Any advice on this kind of situation? I would rather not buy a "backup
>>> laptop".
>> Keeping the previous (working) kernel, and having a rescue disk around
>> usually
>> is enough to fix most kinds of breakages.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Alan E. Davis wrote:
> Is it because I'm more experienced, or perhaps more cautious? I am running
> ~amd64, and have several overlays installed under layman. I don't know, but
> I tend to think the distribution is more mature.
Welcome back! :)
I seem to feel th
Philip Webb wrote:
> 090812 Dale replied to bn :
>
>>> I am becoming very reluctant in updating critical components -
>>> eg my kernel, which is basically untouched since I installed late 2007.
>>>
>> I keep at least two working kernels in /boot.
>> I do mine manually and name them in my
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:37:44 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>
>> I do it this way. I keep at least two working kernels in /boot. If I
>> need to, I can edit the grub boot line to boot the old kernel if the new
>> one doesn't work. I do NOT use the make install thing. I do mine
>
090812 Dale replied to bn :
>> I am becoming very reluctant in updating critical components -
>> eg my kernel, which is basically untouched since I installed late 2007.
> I keep at least two working kernels in /boot.
> I do mine manually and name them in my own way,
> something like bzImage--.
> Wh
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:37:44 -0500, Dale wrote:
> I do it this way. I keep at least two working kernels in /boot. If I
> need to, I can edit the grub boot line to boot the old kernel if the new
> one doesn't work. I do NOT use the make install thing. I do mine
> manually and name them in my ow
bn wrote:
> Philip Webb ha scritto:
>
>> 090812 Alan E. Davis wrote:
>>
>>> I'm a little reluctant to say this, but it's been a couple of months now
>>> since I switched back to Gentoo, and I want to shout out my pleasure
>>> that this system has been performing admirably well this time aro
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:13:18 +1000, Alan E. Davis wrote:
>
>
>> I've watched Gentoo plummet in the popularity ratings, for example at
>> distrowatch.
>>
>
> Distrowatch isn't really an indicator of popularity. You'll notice that
> distros rise up the rankings when a n
On Mittwoch 12 August 2009, Ward Poelmans wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:28, Etaoin Shrdlu
wrote:
> >> Any advice on this kind of situation? I would rather not buy a "backup
> >> laptop".
> >
> > Keeping the previous (working) kernel, and having a rescue disk around
> > usually is enough to f
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:28, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
>> Any advice on this kind of situation? I would rather not buy a "backup
>> laptop".
>
> Keeping the previous (working) kernel, and having a rescue disk around usually
> is enough to fix most kinds of breakages. Also building binary packages is
>
On Wednesday 12 August 2009 12:43:27 bn wrote:
> So I am becoming very reluctant in updating critical components -one
> example is my kernel, which is basically untouched since I installed, in
> late 2007. I know it's counterproductive, because the more I wait, the
> worse it is, but it's always a
> worse it is, but it's always a matter of time, and I don't have that
> time -not to update per se, which I have, but to face problems in case
> critical updates don't go smooth.
>
> Any advice on this kind of situation? I would rather not buy a "backup
> laptop".
>
> > However, unlike a dog, yo
Philip Webb ha scritto:
> 090812 Alan E. Davis wrote:
>> I'm a little reluctant to say this, but it's been a couple of months now
>> since I switched back to Gentoo, and I want to shout out my pleasure
>> that this system has been performing admirably well this time around,
>> in comparison with ea
090812 Alan E. Davis wrote:
> I'm a little reluctant to say this, but it's been a couple of months now
> since I switched back to Gentoo, and I want to shout out my pleasure
> that this system has been performing admirably well this time around,
> in comparison with earlier installations. None of
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:13:18 +1000, Alan E. Davis wrote:
> I've watched Gentoo plummet in the popularity ratings, for example at
> distrowatch.
Distrowatch isn't really an indicator of popularity. You'll notice that
distros rise up the rankings when a new release is due, because people
are checki
I'm a little reluctant to say this, but it's been a couple of months now
since I switched back to Gentoo, and I want to shout out my pleasure that
this system has been performing admirably well this time around, in
comparison with earlier installations. None of the earlier installations
were unacc
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