Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting idea

2006-08-29 Thread Grant
> Any drawbacks to that? Is this what you mean: > > # --lookup-by-subnet strip the last 8 bits from IP addresses (default) Yep this one and no drawbacks I can think of. Cool, it's the default anyway. > Why wouldn't the email be returned to the sender in case 1? Because number 1

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting idea

2006-08-29 Thread kashani
Grant wrote: Any drawbacks to that? Is this what you mean: # --lookup-by-subnet strip the last 8 bits from IP addresses (default) Yep this one and no drawbacks I can think of. Why wouldn't the email be returned to the sender in case 1? Because number 1 is entirely composed of newslet

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting idea

2006-08-29 Thread Grant
> How exactly are legitimate messages lost through greylisting? I've > come up with these: > > 1. legitimate messages that don't retry (someone mentioned Amazon > newsletters) The postgrey whitelist included in the build covers some of the major ones. I'd question these being legitimate emails a

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting idea

2006-08-29 Thread Grant
> Greylisting seems to be the most effective way of eliminating unwanted > email. The problem is that it also has the potential to eliminate a > legitimate email. Couldn't a feature be added to greylisting software > that dispatches an email to the sender of any email that is > temporarily rejec

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting idea

2006-08-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:55:45 -0700, Grant wrote: > Forged > addresses could be a problem though. Is there any way to verify that > the sender address is legitimate without sending an email there? The real problem is that the forged addresses are often real. I get enough spam without adding to it

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting idea

2006-08-29 Thread kashani
Grant wrote: Greylisting seems to be the most effective way of eliminating unwanted email. The problem is that it also has the potential to eliminate a legitimate email. Couldn't a feature be added to greylisting software that dispatches an email to the sender of any email that is temporarily r

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting idea

2006-08-29 Thread Grant
> No, thats just silly. That would send a reply to every email that is a > spam. Most spam has non-existent (or forged) "from" address, which > means the mail will just bounce or go to someone whose address has been > forged. And the rest will confirm to the spammer that they have a valid address

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting idea

2006-08-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:04:40 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: > No, thats just silly. That would send a reply to every email that is a > spam. Most spam has non-existent (or forged) "from" address, which > means the mail will just bounce or go to someone whose address has been > forged. And the rest will

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting idea

2006-08-28 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:30:48 -0700 Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greylisting seems to be the most effective way of eliminating unwanted > email. The problem is that it also has the potential to eliminate a > legitimate email. Couldn't a feature be added to greylisting software > that dispat

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting idea

2006-08-28 Thread Grant
> >Greylisting seems to be the most effective way of eliminating unwanted > >email. The problem is that it also has the potential to eliminate a > >legitimate email. Couldn't a feature be added to greylisting software > >that dispatches an email to the sender of any email that is > >temporarily

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting idea

2006-08-28 Thread Toby Cubitt
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 05:38:37PM -0700, Richard Fish wrote: > On 8/28/06, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Greylisting seems to be the most effective way of eliminating unwanted > >email. The problem is that it also has the potential to eliminate a > >legitimate email. Couldn't a feature be

Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting idea

2006-08-28 Thread Richard Fish
On 8/28/06, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greylisting seems to be the most effective way of eliminating unwanted email. The problem is that it also has the potential to eliminate a legitimate email. Couldn't a feature be added to greylisting software that dispatches an email to the sender of

[gentoo-user] Greylisting idea

2006-08-28 Thread Grant
Greylisting seems to be the most effective way of eliminating unwanted email. The problem is that it also has the potential to eliminate a legitimate email. Couldn't a feature be added to greylisting software that dispatches an email to the sender of any email that is temporarily rejected and do