Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-20 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tue, June 19, 2012 4:02 pm, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:54:26 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> >> Lucky you didn't challenge her to max out your Platinum credit >> >> card ;-) >> > >> > That's implicit in the wedding vows :( >> >> That can be solved by making sure she has a dec

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:05 PM, wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:49:48AM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: >> A thought...if the system is old enough that it only has PCI and PCI-X >> (as opposed to PCIe), then it's definitely not going to have USB3. >> >> Perhaps putting attaching the USB3 enclosur

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread felix
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:43:41AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:16 AM, wrote: > > I bought a USB 3.0 disk enclosure and the system refused to even > > acknowledge its presence. ?USB 3.0 may be advertised as backwards > > compatible, but not on my system. > > Is the dr

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread felix
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:49:48AM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: > A thought...if the system is old enough that it only has PCI and PCI-X > (as opposed to PCIe), then it's definitely not going to have USB3. > > Perhaps putting attaching the USB3 enclosure to the system by way of a > USB2 hub might wor

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:16 AM, wrote: > I bought a USB 3.0 disk enclosure and the system refused to even acknowledge > its presence.  USB 3.0 may be advertised as backwards compatible, but not on > my system. Is the drive powered by USB, or an external power supply? USB3 supplies more power

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Stroller wrote: > > On 18 June 2012, at 15:39, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: >>> ... >>> It does bring to mind a question...when I went to put SATAII drives in >>> a SATA box, I needed to flip a jumper on the drive so that it would >>> operate at 1.5Gb/s instead of 3Gb

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread Stroller
On 18 June 2012, at 15:39, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: >> ... >> It does bring to mind a question...when I went to put SATAII drives in >> a SATA box, I needed to flip a jumper on the drive so that it would >> operate at 1.5Gb/s instead of 3Gb/s. Felix, did you follow any >> analogous steps for the 4

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:54:26 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> Lucky you didn't challenge her to max out your Platinum credit > >> card ;-) > > > > That's implicit in the wedding vows :( > > That can be solved by making sure she has a decent paying job herself :) That worked for you??? :-O -

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tue, June 19, 2012 1:37 am, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:24:58 -0400 > Michael Mol wrote: > > [snip] > >> Felix, did you follow any >> analogous steps for the 4TB drives? >> >> (Cripes, that's a lot of data. One drive, bigger than any of my >> aggregate volumes.) > > > Complet

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tue, June 19, 2012 12:06 pm, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:30:33 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > >> Lucky you didn't challenge her to max out your Platinum credit card ;-) > > That's implicit in the wedding vows :( That can be solved by making sure she has a decent paying job hers

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:30:33 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Lucky you didn't challenge her to max out your Platinum credit card ;-) That's implicit in the wedding vows :( -- Neil Bothwick A. Top posters. Q. What is the most annoying thing on Usenet? signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:24:58 -0400 > Michael Mol wrote: > > [snip] > >> Felix, did you follow any >> analogous steps for the 4TB drives? >> >> (Cripes, that's a lot of data. One drive, bigger than any of my >> aggregate volumes.) > > Completely OT but what the heck: :-) > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jun 19, 2012 6:45 AM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:24:58 -0400 > Michael Mol wrote: > > [snip] > > > Felix, did you follow any > > analogous steps for the 4TB drives? > > > > (Cripes, that's a lot of data. One drive, bigger than any of my > > aggregate volumes.) > > > Comp

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:24:58 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: [snip] > Felix, did you follow any > analogous steps for the 4TB drives? > > (Cripes, that's a lot of data. One drive, bigger than any of my > aggregate volumes.) Completely OT but what the heck: :-) I built a 12TB FreeNAS Storage box for

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:24:16 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > Found a Tyan page for my motherboard. Didn't see any obvious fixes > for SATA size. I also don't remember my BIOS version, I'll have to > check that. lshw will show you the BIOs version without rebooting. -- Neil Bothwick The th

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 05:45:28PM +0200, pk wrote: > Will you be using these (huge!) drives as boot drives or merely as > storage? If the latter and you're really desperate (haven't tried this > myself) there should be an option to turn off the automatic discovery of > drives in the BIOS and (pos

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread pk
On 2012-06-18 16:34, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > Hitachi, I think. Fry's had two choies differing in size of cache > (64M vs 32M) and some 3TB drives too. I could get the model numbers > when I get back to that system (not near it for a few days). Ah, the deskstar 7K4000 is readily available on

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread pk
On 2012-06-18 16:57, Michael Mol wrote: > I only posted the link to the Seagate drive, since that was the first > one that popped up in my search. Point is, the 4TB drives do exist. Hm, now that you mentioned it I think I've read something about this a while ago (long enough time has gone for me

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:48 AM, pk wrote: > On 2012-06-18 16:24, Michael Mol wrote: > >> http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST4000DX000/dp/B005WX3NEU/ >> >> "Seagate Barracuda 7200 4 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 128MB Cache >> 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive" > > Hm... then Sea

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 04:48:09PM +0200, pk wrote: > That would be a possibility of course... but if that fails he also have > this option: > http://www.areca.com.tw/products/pcix.htm > (I'm sure there are similar options from other manufacturers)... My google-fu is deteriorating. I didn't see t

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread pk
On 2012-06-18 16:24, Michael Mol wrote: > http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST4000DX000/dp/B005WX3NEU/ > > "Seagate Barracuda 7200 4 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 128MB Cache > 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive" Hm... then Seagate needs to update their product page: http://www.se

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:24:58AM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:12 AM, pk wrote: > > On 2012-06-18 08:16, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > > > >> I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the > >> disk size. > >>Whether it is the size itself, or fro

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 04:12:35PM +0200, pk wrote: > On 2012-06-18 08:16, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > > > I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the > > disk size. > >Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. > > This is a bit confusing

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:12 AM, pk wrote: > On 2012-06-18 08:16, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > >> I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the >> disk size. >>Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. > > This is a bit confusing. Do you mea

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread pk
On 2012-06-18 08:16, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the > disk size. >Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. This is a bit confusing. Do you mean to say that these are 4TB internal drives (3.5")? I

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 06:11:31AM -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 09:06:54AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:16:24 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > > > > > I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display > > > the disk size.

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 09:06:54AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:16:24 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > > > I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display > > the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, > > I do not know. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 02:35:03PM +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > 32bit or 64 bit system? Dual opteron, ~amd64. > Kernel options for large file systems? Yes. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman & rocket surgeon / fe...@cr

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:16:24 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display > the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, > I do not know. Have you updated the BIOS to the latest available version? -- Neil Bot

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-17 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 23:16 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > I have an ancient system which was quite the bee's knees in its day 8 years > ago, but is showing its age. > > I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the > disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or f

[gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-17 Thread felix
I have an ancient system which was quite the bee's knees in its day 8 years ago, but is showing its age. I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. I bought a USB 3.0 disk enclosure