Am Freitag, den 28.11.2008, 13:46 +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> Any Linux defrag tool you encounter will have been written by a third party
> separate from the developers. It will move blocks around and update
> superblocks, the drive will have to be unmounted for that to work and a
> slight mi
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Joshua Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Friday 28 November 2008 13:14:42 Dale wrote:
>>> If this is a little high, what would be the best way to defrag it?
>>
>> By not defragging it
Stroller wrote:
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> No, NTFS *is* really bad in that regard. I've seen it HORRIBLY
> fragmented, and defragging it make a REMARKABLE difference. At least
> the nice thing is that Defrag not only fixes you the problem, but also
> shows it before you run it.
>
> Stroller.
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>
>
I agree. I defrag
On Friday 28 November 2008 21:31:51 Stroller wrote:
> NTFS *is* really bad in that regard. I've seen it HORRIBLY fragmented, and
> defragging it make a REMARKABLE difference.
I remember also that when M$ introduced NTFS they made a big thing of not
needing to defrag it. Only later, when others w
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:24:08 -0600, Dale wrote:
> Given my experience with XFS, I won't be switching anytime soon. I used
> that once on a in-laws system. After each crash, power failure, I had
> to reinstall. Let's just say it left a bad taste in my mouth. ;-) I'm
> not saying it is a bad fi
Alan McKinnon wrote:
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> I've been waiting for a proper statistical analysis of this question for
> years. I'm still waiting :-) Besides, modern storage presents an extra
> wrinkle. Defrag as most of the world knows it originated in DOS, where disk
> sectors were guaranteed to be laid out on dis
On Friday 28 November 2008 17:08:03 Stroller wrote:
> I understood that ReiserFS's trees could become out-of-balance,
> resulting in performance loss, and that the way to deal with this was
> to tar the contents of the drive to another file-system and then untar
> them back.
That's what I te
On Friday 28 November 2008 18:09:37 Joshua Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > On Friday 28 November 2008 13:14:42 Dale wrote:
> >> If this is a little high, what would be the best way to defrag it?
> >
> > By not defragging it.
> >
> > It'
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Hi, Dale!
>
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 05:14:42AM -0600, Dale wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>
>
>> I have a pretty old install tho I have moved it from one drive to
>> another once, using cp -av. It got to big for the old hard drive.
>> Anyway, the install is about 5
On 28 Nov 2008, at 16:31, Florian Philipp wrote:
...
I'm wondering, why is Windows that bad in this regard? Of course,
FAT* is bad, but what's about NTFS? It is at least as modern as most
Linux FS and has some nice features. Surely MS should be capable of
implementing the same allocation a
Hi, Dale!
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 05:14:42AM -0600, Dale wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I have a pretty old install tho I have moved it from one drive to
> another once, using cp -av. It got to big for the old hard drive.
> Anyway, the install is about 5 years old or so and about 3 years since
> it got m
Joshua Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Given my experience with XFS, I won't be switching anytime soon. I used
>> that once on a in-laws system. After each crash, power failure, I had
>> to reinstall. Let's just say it left a bad taste in
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joshua Murphy wrote:
>> While not trying to incite flames here... xfs isn't general purpose?
>> xfs_fsr defrags xfs partitions while they're mounted and is designed
>> to be used from cron (it's in xfsdump, not xfsprogs). File
>> f
Joshua Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Friday 28 November 2008 13:14:42 Dale wrote:
>>
>>> If this is a little high, what would be the best way to defrag it?
>>>
>> By not defragging it.
>>
>> It's not Windows. Windows
Florian Philipp wrote:
> Dale schrieb:
>
>> I have said myself that Linux does not generally need to be defraged. I
>> have never seen a Linux file system get anything near as bad as
>> windoze. While I don't run windoze I do have family and friends that do
>> so I know how bad it can be. I have
Dale schrieb:
I have said myself that Linux does not generally need to be defraged. I
have never seen a Linux file system get anything near as bad as
windoze. While I don't run windoze I do have family and friends that do
so I know how bad it can be. I have seen a lot of windoze be at 40 and
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 28 November 2008 13:14:42 Dale wrote:
>> If this is a little high, what would be the best way to defrag it?
>
> By not defragging it.
>
> It's not Windows. Windows boxes needs defragging not because fragmentation
Florian Philipp wrote:
> Alan McKinnon schrieb:
> [...]
>> Reiser tends to self-balance itself out. What is especially
>> noteworthy is that none of the general purpose Linux filesystems
>> provide a defrag utility. Theodore 'Tso and Hans Reiser are both
>> exceptional programmers, if there was a n
On 28 Nov 2008, at 11:46, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Friday 28 November 2008 13:14:42 Dale wrote:
If this is a little high, what would be the best way to defrag it?
By not defragging it.
It's not Windows. Windows boxes needs defragging not because
fragmentation is
a huge problem in itself, b
Alan McKinnon schrieb:
[...]
Reiser tends to self-balance itself out. What is especially noteworthy is that
none of the general purpose Linux filesystems provide a defrag utility.
Theodore 'Tso and Hans Reiser are both exceptional programmers, if there was
a need for such a tool they would assu
On Friday 28 November 2008 13:14:42 Dale wrote:
> If this is a little high, what would be the best way to defrag it?
By not defragging it.
It's not Windows. Windows boxes needs defragging not because fragmentation is
a huge problem in itself, but because windows filesystems are a steaming mess
Hi folks,
I have a pretty old install tho I have moved it from one drive to
another once, using cp -av. It got to big for the old hard drive.
Anyway, the install is about 5 years old or so and about 3 years since
it got moved. I have Gentoo on it naturally, a ship load of pictures
and a few oth
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