On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 19:51:26 BST Wols Lists wrote:
> So if Dovecot is serving IMAP4 to your workstation, the emails should be
> in dovecot, and cached on your workstation. For my setup, they're stored
> in dovecot, and cached in thunderbird ...
Almost. KMail has a 'Download messages for off
On 31/07/2023 16:55, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Monday, 31 July 2023 15:19:22 BST Wols Lists wrote:
The big question that needs answering is "Are you storing your emails in
dovecot, or in kmail?"
In KMail.
My server has fetchmail -> postfix -> dovecot. Fetchmail collects POP3 emails
from my IS
On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 11:42:55 BST Michael wrote:
> The idea being to separate the SMTP server and corresponding authentication
> credentials you may send messages with, from the Sent Folder(s) each sent
> messages is saved in, while using different 'From' email account identities.
It seems I
On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 10:53:15 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:17:17 BST Michael wrote:
> > On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:13:19 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > > I thought I should be able to specify where outgoi
On Monday, 31 July 2023 18:57:59 BST Michael wrote:
> On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:25:20 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download
> > > all
> > > messages for offline use" and
On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:17:17 BST Michael wrote:
> On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:13:19 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > I thought I should be able to specify where outgoing mail should be
> > > put, but I can't find it now.
> >
> > That's
> Jul 31, 2023 13:23:21 Matt Connell :
>
> > On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 20:16 +0300, Alexe Stefan wrote:
> >>> Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire
> >>> web engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people
> >>> who knows full well what the answer is.
>
On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:13:19 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I thought I should be able to specify where outgoing mail should be
> > put, but I can't find it now.
>
> That's a setting in the mail client.
Kmail Settings > Accounts > Iden
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 17:03:49 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> What should I do about backups of the server?
Don't bother, hard disks are dead reliable these days ;-)
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> I thought I should be able to specify where outgoing mail should be
> put, but I can't find it now.
That's a setting in the mail client.
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On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:25:20 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download
> > all
> > messages for offline use" and then drag the locally stored emails to the
> > IMAP Account,
On 2023.07.31 13:23, Matt Connell wrote:
On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 20:16 +0300, Alexe Stefan wrote:
> > Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire
> > web
> > engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people
who
> > knows full well what the answer is.
>
> Wha
On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:25:20 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download
> > all
> > messages for offline use" and then drag the locally stored emails to the
> > IMAP Account,
On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 20:16 +0300, Alexe Stefan wrote:
> > Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire
> > web
> > engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people who
> > knows full well what the answer is.
>
> What is the answer?
> Mutt doesn't need a web en
>
> Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire web
> engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people who
> knows full well what the answer is.
>
What is the answer?
Mutt doesn't need a web engine.
>
On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 17:14 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> I see it's a gnome program and has 17 new dependencies (to this box).
Unfortunately one of them is webkit-gtk, which, if you don't have it
already, is a compilation lift.
Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire
On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download all
> messages for offline use" and then drag the locally stored emails to the IMAP
> Account, which is shown at the top of the folder list, attached. Does that
> cr
On Monday, 31 July 2023 02:12:00 BST Matt Connell wrote:
> On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 01:29 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic
> > might be a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were
> > reliable. It isn't, though, which
On Monday, 31 July 2023 14:26:16 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:33:18 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > > But you're running the IMAP server locally, so what difference does
> > > > it make?
> >
> > It's just the way things have 'just growed'. I could start again with
> > the s
On Monday, 31 July 2023 15:19:22 BST Wols Lists wrote:
> The big question that needs answering is "Are you storing your emails in
> dovecot, or in kmail?"
In KMail.
My server has fetchmail -> postfix -> dovecot. Fetchmail collects POP3 emails
from my ISP and forwards it to postfix, and dovecot
On 31/07/2023 13:33, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Monday, 31 July 2023 08:34:05 BST Wols Lists wrote:
On 31/07/2023 00:11, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird.
Neither program cares that I
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:33:18 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > But you're running the IMAP server locally, so what difference does
> > > it make?
>
> It's just the way things have 'just growed'. I could start again with
> the server keeping the mails itself, but it's a good deal of work.
Not
On Monday, 31 July 2023 08:34:05 BST Wols Lists wrote:
> On 31/07/2023 00:11, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> >>> ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird.
> >>> Neither program cares that I have also used the other to re
On 31/07/2023 00:11, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird.
Neither program cares that I have also used the other to read my
mail.
Ah, but you're using IMAP4 and leaving your emails on t
On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 01:29 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic
> might be a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were
> reliable. It isn't, though, which drives me to consider alternatives.
To present an alternative t
On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird.
> > Neither program cares that I have also used the other to read my
> > mail.
>
> Ah, but you're using IMAP4 and leaving your emails on the server. I
> don't want to
On Sunday, 30 July 2023 20:02:47 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird. Neither
> program cares that I have also used the other to read my mail.
Ah, but you're using IMAP4 and leaving your emails on the server. I don't want
to do that.
--
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 12:23:47 +0100, Wols Lists wrote:
> > Hm. I already have Dovecot on my LAN server, because KMail is
> > horribly buggy with POP3, which is what my ISP offers. So fetchmail
> > -> postfix -> dovecot became necessary before I could use IMAP4 in
> > KMail.
> >
> > All incoming em
On Sunday, 30 July 2023 13:07:52 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> When I had kmail issues back in the day of early akonadi times (remember
> Alan’s thread about data loss from then?), I tried out mutt and I’ve been
> using it ever since. I configured it to my liking re. list layout, sidebar,
> shor
Am Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 01:53:21AM -0400 schrieb Philip Webb:
> 230729 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years.
> > Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts and I'd like to try it,
> > but first I'd need to export KMail's 20-odd-year maildir history
> > to mbox form
On 29/07/2023 15:50, Arsen Arsenović wrote:
But I DO have to care about postfix/main.cf. This makes the fundamental blunder
of mixing distro defaults and local config in the SAME FILE. So yes it does
offer me etc-update. But if I MISS THAT, I've just trashed my local config and
have to rebuild it
Wols Lists writes:
> On 29/07/2023 14:54, Arsen Arsenović wrote:
>> Again, it shouldn't be able to do that. Please check CONFIG_PROTECT
>> using: portageq envvar CONFIG_PROTECT
>> It should, normally, contain /etc, set by profiles/base/make.defaults.
>
> And here is the root of the mis-understa
On 29/07/2023 14:54, Arsen Arsenović wrote:
Again, it shouldn't be able to do that. Please check CONFIG_PROTECT
using: portageq envvar CONFIG_PROTECT
It should, normally, contain /etc, set by profiles/base/make.defaults.
And here is the root of the mis-understanding between us. And also why
Wols Lists writes:
> On 29/07/2023 11:13, Arsen Arsenović wrote:
>> Wols Lists writes:
>>
>>> On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote:
User of Claws with a local maildir here. One mail per file always
felt safer to me. If you do want to keep using maildir,
net-mail/dovecot p
On 29/07/2023 12:01, Peter Humphrey wrote:
Hm. I already have Dovecot on my LAN server, because KMail is horribly buggy
with POP3, which is what my ISP offers. So fetchmail -> postfix -> dovecot
became necessary before I could use IMAP4 in KMail.
All incoming emails are transferred to my worksta
On 29/07/2023 11:13, Arsen Arsenović wrote:
Wols Lists writes:
On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote:
User of Claws with a local maildir here. One mail per file always
felt safer to me. If you do want to keep using maildir,
net-mail/dovecot provides IMAP access to ~/.maildir out of the
On Saturday, 29 July 2023 07:56:21 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 01:29:59 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts, and I'd like to try it, but
> > first I'd need to export KMail's 20-odd-year maildir history to mbox
> > format. Is it enough to run
Wols Lists writes:
> On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote:
>> User of Claws with a local maildir here. One mail per file always
>> felt safer to me. If you do want to keep using maildir,
>> net-mail/dovecot provides IMAP access to ~/.maildir out of the box,
>> and I've found this combinat
On Saturday, 29 July 2023 01:29:59 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic might be
> a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were reliable. It
> isn't, though, which drives me to consider alternatives.
I've b
On 29/07/2023 03:37, Bryan Gardiner wrote:
User of Claws with a local maildir here. One mail per file always
felt safer to me. If you do want to keep using maildir,
net-mail/dovecot provides IMAP access to ~/.maildir out of the box,
and I've found this combination to be reliable.
Just a tip w
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 01:29:59 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts, and I'd like to try it, but
> first I'd need to export KMail's 20-odd-year maildir history to mbox
> format. Is it enough to run KMail's Import/Export Data tool to do this?
> It should be, on the
230729 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years.
> Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts and I'd like to try it,
> but first I'd need to export KMail's 20-odd-year maildir history
> to mbox format.
I recommend a look at Mutt, which I've used very happily since c 1
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 01:29:59 +0100
Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic
> might be a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were
> reliable. It isn't, though, which drives me to consider alternatives.
>
> Claw
On 2023.07.28 20:29, Peter Humphrey wrote:
Hello list,
I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic
might be a
better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were reliable.
It isn't,
though, which drives me to consider alternatives.
Claws mail is often mention
Hello list,
I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic might be a
better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were reliable. It isn't,
though, which drives me to consider alternatives.
Claws mail is often mentioned hereabouts, and I'd like to try it, but first
On 2020.08.20 16:11, james wrote:
On 8/20/20 1:16 PM, Jack wrote:
(Thunderbird, spike and slack). Others ?
I've been using Balsa for years.� It was originally a gnome based
app, but I use it under KDE/Plasma/openrc.� It can handle mbox,
maildir, and several other storage types.� smtp,
On 2/28/07, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 14:23 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
>As I said in a response a few minutes ago the emerge -e world,
> although not completely done, appears to have fixed it. Evolution is
> now running fine.
>
>I will wait for the eme
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 14:23 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
>As I said in a response a few minutes ago the emerge -e world,
> although not completely done, appears to have fixed it. Evolution is
> now running fine.
>
>I will wait for the emerge -e world to finish up tonight and ensure
> it's st
Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> Hi Benno,
> It failed in a new account I created just to test that.
>
> As I said in a response a few minutes ago the emerge -e world,
> although not completely done, appears to have fixed it. Evolution is
> now running fine.
>
> I will wait for the emerge -e world to f
On 2/28/07, Benno Schulenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
> If it still fails then I'll have to return here one more time to
> ask questions about what needs to be rebuilt.
Have you tried moving ~/.evolution out of the way? Maybe it's just
a broken config file that makes all v
On 2/28/07, Ryan Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 2/28/07, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/28/07, Matthias Langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 20:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For w
Mark Knecht wrote:
> If it still fails then I'll have to return here one more time to
> ask questions about what needs to be rebuilt.
Have you tried moving ~/.evolution out of the way? Maybe it's just
a broken config file that makes all versions of Evo stumble.
> Must I rebuild
> everything or
On 2/28/07, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 2/28/07, Matthias Langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 20:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever
> > reason all versions of Evolution in Portage c
On 2/28/07, Matthias Langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 20:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Hi all,
>I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever
> reason all versions of Evolution in Portage crash. I cannot as of yet
> get a backtrace to determine why
On 2/28/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wednesday 28 February 2007 11:30:23 Mark Knecht wrote:
> Thanks. Yes, I'm completely through the emerge -DuN world,
> revdep-rebuild process. No help there. Evolution continues to crash.
> We were running Evolution 2.4. Unfortunately it
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 20:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Hi all,
>I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever
> reason all versions of Evolution in Portage crash. I cannot as of yet
> get a backtrace to determine why.
I'm using evolution-2.8.2.1 and it works fine; can yo
On Wednesday 28 February 2007 11:30:23 Mark Knecht wrote:
> Thanks. Yes, I'm completely through the emerge -DuN world,
> revdep-rebuild process. No help there. Evolution continues to crash.
> We were running Evolution 2.4. Unfortunately it's no longer in
> portage. I've built every unmasked and mas
On 2/28/07, Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: James Ausmus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 28 February 2007 08:45
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Ev
> -Original Message-
> From: James Ausmus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 28 February 2007 08:45
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?
>
>
> On 2/27/07, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On 2/27/07, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,
I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever
reason all versions of Evolution in Portage crash. I cannot as of yet
get a backtrace to determine why. Even if I could a fast solution
would depend on other folks seei
Hi all,
I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever
reason all versions of Evolution in Portage crash. I cannot as of yet
get a backtrace to determine why. Even if I could a fast solution
would depend on other folks seeing what's wrong and telling me how to
fix it by recom
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