Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: SSH won't restart

2007-09-17 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: > I just prefer manual "opening" of access means above manual "securing" > them. It's just about what happens if you fail -- when the task was > securing, you might have a security leak, but if it was openiung > access, it is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: SSH won't restart

2007-09-17 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:56:16 -0300 "Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So I would definately prefer to always have a guaranteed working > > sshd running (I find OpenVPN/telnet a bit strange and an unnecessary > > potential security hole). > > If running permanently, th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: SSH won't restart

2007-09-17 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: > Hi, Hi! > So I would definately prefer to always have a guaranteed working sshd > running (I find OpenVPN/telnet a bit strange and an unnecessary > potential security hole). If running permanently, then I agree, but I do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: SSH won't restart

2007-09-17 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:25:07 +0200 Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A "/etc/init.d/sshd stop" won't kill any SSH sessions. It'll > simply the sshd "master process". Because of that, additional > logins won't be possible. An /etc/init.d/sshd stop/restart can very well fail. Depend

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: SSH won't restart

2007-09-17 Thread Mike Williams
On Sunday 16 September 2007 18:01:48 Alexander Skwar wrote: > > Key words "in some circumstances". > > Like? > > Actually, I never found this to be true. Never? Good for you. Grant, the original poster would disagree (who got himself locked out due to the inability to restart sshd BTW), and so wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: SSH won't restart

2007-09-16 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Alexander Skwar wrote: > A "/etc/init.d/sshd stop" won't kill any SSH sessions. It'll > simply the sshd "master process". Because of that, additional > logins won't be possible. You seem to believe that most people makes no mistakes. I wouldn't need

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: SSH won't restart

2007-09-16 Thread Alexander Skwar
· Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Graham Murray wrote: >> What circumstances? I too have performed updates on several remote >> systems via SSH and run /etc/init.d/sshd restart and never had any >> problems. > > Something like "/etc/init.d/sshd test-restart" would be nice. For

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: SSH won't restart

2007-09-16 Thread Alexander Skwar
· Mike Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sunday 16 September 2007 16:40:45 Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> > openssh, in some circumstances (I believe to be openssl changing ABI), >> > will not restart as you found. It will only not restart when it's being >> > actively used, so you can't do so will