On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 08:56:09AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote
> How is this better than a 500G filesystem mounted at /?
Try wiping the OS and re-installing (or installing a different distro
for that matter) with "a 500G filesystem mounted at /"... without
backing up your data and restoring afte
On Wednesday 05 September 2007, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 10:45:15AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote
>
> > You will always have a pretty good idea how much space / needs, it
> > contains /bin, /sbin, /etc, /root and /lib. Unless oyu are in the
> > habit of storing stuff in /root, 500M
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:08:04 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> > You will always have a pretty good idea how much space / needs, it
> > contains /bin, /sbin, /etc, /root and /lib. Unless oyu are in the
> > habit of storing stuff in /root, 500M is plenty. So put / on a
> > regular partition, everything e
· Remy Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Well, I haven't spent much time looking at rescue CDs, I have always
> used Knoppix up to now and it has been good enough. I'll just check that
> recent LVM tools are on it.
Knoppix is *NOT* a rescue disc! It lacks some essential tools, eg.
LVM stuff.
I recomm
· Remy Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> There's one thing that has prevented me from ever using LVM: the need to
> have an initrd (or initramfs).
You only need an initrd, if you wish to have / on LVM. But if you put
/ (incl. /boot) on a normal partition, there's no need at all for an
initrd.
Alexand
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 12:19:29PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote
> On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Remy Blank wrote:
> > Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> > > What you can't do, and to my knowledge no regular fs can do, is to
> > > *reduce* a mounted partition
> >
> > But who would want to do that? I always nee
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 10:45:15AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote
> You will always have a pretty good idea how much space / needs, it
> contains /bin, /sbin, /etc, /root and /lib. Unless oyu are in the habit
> of storing stuff in /root, 500M is plenty. So put / on a regular
> partition, everything
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 schrieb ext Remy Blank:
>> Could you give me a pointer?
>
> Can't remember when e2fstools were dropped from Gentoo, but resize2fs is
> part of e2fsprogs.
I actually meant e2fsprogs. Bad manual copy/paste operation.
But I was just looking fo
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:54:44 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:
> Anything special if I put the LVM over a software raid?
No, that's what I do. / is on a RAID-1 partition, then I have an LVM
physical volume on a RAID-5 partition for /usr, /home et al.
--
Neil Bothwick
I wonder how much deeper would the
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:14:12 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:
> OTOH, if you put /usr, /home, /var, /tmp and all the others on LVM, you
> could just leave the root partition unencrypted, as it wouldn't contain
> anything sensitive.
Apart from some contents of /etc.
--
Neil Bothwick
DANGER! DANGER! Co
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:19:29 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> emerged openoffice lately? :-)
>
> It pretty much always fails if you have <5G in /var/tmp/portage. On a
> laptop, that's 8% of my total disk space just sitting there free
> waiting for the day I emerge openoffice again. Umounting /var t
Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 schrieb ext Remy Blank:
> Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> >> Do you even need one?
> >
> > Yes, I do. Because I have / on a logical volume which may (in case of a
> > laptop) also be encrypted.
>
> Right. I think I might have confused the necessity to have an initramfs
> for
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> You have software compiled in the kernel, not as a module the, right?
Correct.
> A reduce might be a different case altogether. BUT, it's not an
> especially different operation to a defrag on Windows, and I have yet
> to see a Windows admin debate whether he should defra
On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 schrieb ext Remy Blank:
> > I wasn't aware of ext2online.
>
> Then forget it again. Resizing ext2/3 is done with resize2fs
> nowadays.
Oops, my bad.
It comes from not using ext2/3 on my own personal machines, and
On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Remy Blank wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
[snip]
> > The only case I can think of that *requires* initramfs right now is
> > booting off a raid device
>
> Strangely enough, I am currently booting from a software raid device,
> so you don't need an initramfs for that eit
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
>> Do you even need one?
>
> Yes, I do. Because I have / on a logical volume which may (in case of a
> laptop) also be encrypted.
Right. I think I might have confused the necessity to have an initramfs
for LVM and the need to have it for an encrypted root.
OTOH, if you pu
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:30:55 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:
>> There's one thing that has prevented me from ever using LVM: the need to
>> have an initrd (or initramfs).
>
> Sshh! Don't tell the systems I've been running on LVM for years that they
> need an initrd or they'll all w
Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 schrieb ext Remy Blank:
> I wasn't aware of ext2online.
Then forget it again. Resizing ext2/3 is done with resize2fs nowadays.
Bye...
Dirk
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Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Gentoo it's easy to get away with not using an initramfs. Everything
> is built from source and you roll your own kernel so we don't need to
> jump through the boot time hoops that a binary distro must to be able
> to support everything and boot.
>
> You will always ha
Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 schrieb ext Remy Blank:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > Why do you make such a big deal of not using LVM? It achieves
> > everything you want to, and more, without the compromises.
>
> There's one thing that has prevented me from ever using LVM: the need to
> have an initr
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:30:55 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:
> > Why do you make such a big deal of not using LVM? It achieves
> > everything you want to, and more, without the compromises.
>
> There's one thing that has prevented me from ever using LVM: the need to
> have an initrd (or initramfs).
S
On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Remy Blank wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > Why do you make such a big deal of not using LVM? It achieves
> > everything you want to, and more, without the compromises.
>
> There's one thing that has prevented me from ever using LVM: the need
> to have an initrd (or i
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> Why do you make such a big deal of not using LVM? It achieves everything
> you want to, and more, without the compromises.
There's one thing that has prevented me from ever using LVM: the need to
have an initrd (or initramfs). From what I remember, this has always
required m
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