RE: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-09-13 Thread Daevid Vincent
Related to this, I had a similar situation when I setup up a 'turbonet' card on my TiVo. I built and evolved this web UI: http://daevid.com/examples/dhcp/ Source is at bottom of the page. I find it useful to see who's on my network. My linux box is the firewall and dhcp server. It uses 'arp'.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-31 Thread Frank Schafer
If some other machine wants to communicate with some second other machine ... say secmachine.homenet.com it connects to the DNS server of homenet.com. (This step won't be done if IP addresses are in use. The DNS server then sends the IP address to firstmachine.homenet.com or firstmachine uses the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-31 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Nick, on Wednesday, 2005-08-31 at 20:30:14, you wrote: > arp will rely on the box having actually done something within arp's > cache period. What's more, ARP resolves IP addresses to MAC addresses and the IP address is what the OP wanted to find out in the first place. I'd try in this order: 1

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-31 Thread Anthony Walters
Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I have the situation where I've been loaned an old Sun SPARC box for some work. It has a static IP somewhere in the 192.168.0.* range, which my home network also is in. My question is, how can I find out the IP address of the machine? if it is pingable then e

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-31 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 05:50 -0500, John Jolet wrote: > On Aug 31, 2005, at 1:38 AM, Frank Schafer wrote: > > > > > ... what about arp? > > > > If this machine has the mac address listed on the outside of the > case, or he opens it up to look at the card, sure. if you don't know > what the ma

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-31 Thread John Jolet
On Aug 31, 2005, at 1:38 AM, Frank Schafer wrote: ... what about arp? If this machine has the mac address listed on the outside of the case, or he opens it up to look at the card, sure. if you don't know what the mac address isthen you're stuck. Of course, if it's a small, home

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-31 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 16:42 +0800, Destromy wrote: > >> > >> > ping broadcast ? now we are going in circles. not every device responds to ping - its optional in linux and people often turn it off because of various DOS attacks based on icmp. also some OSes don't seem to respond to broadcast

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-31 Thread Destromy
Nick Rout wrote: >On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 08:38 +0200, Frank Schafer wrote: > > >>On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 17:51 -0500, John Jolet wrote: >> >> >>>On Aug 30, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Christoph Gysin wrote: >>> >>> >>> John Jolet wrote: >yeah, if it's got a firewall d

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-31 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 08:38 +0200, Frank Schafer wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 17:51 -0500, John Jolet wrote: > > On Aug 30, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Christoph Gysin wrote: > > > > > John Jolet wrote: > > > > > >> yeah, if it's got a firewall disallowing icmp responses. then you > > >> can do nmap -P

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-30 Thread Frank Schafer
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 17:51 -0500, John Jolet wrote: > On Aug 30, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Christoph Gysin wrote: > > > John Jolet wrote: > > > >> yeah, if it's got a firewall disallowing icmp responses. then you > >> can do nmap -P0 to find it. ping would never find it. It's gotta > >> have SOME

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-30 Thread John Jolet
On Aug 30, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Christoph Gysin wrote: John Jolet wrote: yeah, if it's got a firewall disallowing icmp responses. then you can do nmap -P0 to find it. ping would never find it. It's gotta have SOME port open. As far as I've read his post, there's no firewall involved. S

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-30 Thread Christoph Gysin
John Jolet wrote: yeah, if it's got a firewall disallowing icmp responses. then you can do nmap -P0 to find it. ping would never find it. It's gotta have SOME port open. As far as I've read his post, there's no firewall involved. So why should he do portscans in all hosts on the subnet?

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-30 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 30 August 2005 15:51, Andrew Lowe wrote: > Hi all, > I have the situation where I've been loaned an old Sun SPARC box for > some work. It has a static IP somewhere in the 192.168.0.* range, which > my home network also is in. My question is, how can I find out the IP > address of the machi

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-30 Thread John Jolet
yeah, if it's got a firewall disallowing icmp responses. then you can do nmap -P0 to find it. ping would never find it. It's gotta have SOME port open. Also, nmap can do os fingerprinting and probably show you which one is the solaris or sunos machine... On Tuesday 30 August 2005 10:12, Chr

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-30 Thread Christoph Gysin
Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I have the situation where I've been loaned an old Sun SPARC box for some work. It has a static IP somewhere in the 192.168.0.* range, which my home network also is in. My question is, how can I find out the IP address of the machine? I've forgotten what it is an

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-30 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Andrew Lowe wrote: > Hi all, > I have the situation where I've been loaned an old Sun SPARC box for > some work. It has a static IP somewhere in the 192.168.0.* range, which > my home network also is in. My question is, how can I find out the IP > address of the machine? I've forgotten what it

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-30 Thread Martin Marcher
Dienstag 30 August 2005 16:51, Andrew Lowe: > Is there a utilitiy in portage that will try all of > the ip addresses in a range and let me know if something it at the other > end, ie something like automatically pinging all of the addresses in a > range and reporting what addresses responded? if i

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-30 Thread fire-eyes
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 00:51 +1000, Andrew Lowe wrote: > Hi all, > I have the situation where I've been loaned an old Sun SPARC > box for > some work. It has a static IP somewhere in the 192.168.0.* range, > which > my home network also is in. My question is, how can I find out the IP > a

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-30 Thread John Jolet
emerge nmap On Tuesday 30 August 2005 09:51, Andrew Lowe wrote: > Hi all, > I have the situation where I've been loaned an old Sun SPARC box for > some work. It has a static IP somewhere in the 192.168.0.* range, which > my home network also is in. My question is, how can I find out the IP >

[gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network

2005-08-30 Thread Andrew Lowe
Hi all, I have the situation where I've been loaned an old Sun SPARC box for some work. It has a static IP somewhere in the 192.168.0.* range, which my home network also is in. My question is, how can I find out the IP address of the machine? I've forgotten what it is and it's also headless w