Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 7/29/24 4:09 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > Right, but that's only useful after you track down the trigger for the > new packages. What would be nice is avoiding that "tracking down" > effort. [I know, I should just relax, hit 'Y', and trust that emerge > and the devs know what they're doing.] Th

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread gentoo
Hello, 29.07.2024 15:17:26 Peter Humphrey : > I'd like to be able to shut a KDE machine down from another room, over SSH. https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-from-shell-without-root-privileges https://stackoverflow.com/questions/78175326/how-can-i-trigger-shut

[gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> [...] I (for one) would appreciate some sort of notice when such an >> unbundling happens so that I don't waste time trying to track down >> why emerge suddenly wants to install a bunch of new packages. I >> can't really come up with a good mechanism for tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 29 July 2024 16:10:10 BST Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 6:42 AM Peter Humphrey >> >> wrote: >>> On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote: On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +01

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 7/29/24 2:05 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> >>> It turns out dev-python/poetry has nothing to do with poetry, so my AI >>> paranoia was unjustified (this time), but one wonders what devs are >>> thinking when the decide they add dozens of new dependencies like

[gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote: > >> It turns out dev-python/poetry has nothing to do with poetry, so my AI >> paranoia was unjustified (this time), but one wonders what devs are >> thinking when the decide they add dozens of new dependencies like >> that. Why does pip suddenly need to format (

Re: [gentoo-user] 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Andreas Fink
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:01:19 - (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote: > It turns out dev-python/poetry has nothing to do with poetry, so my AI > paranoia was unjustified (this time), but one wonders what devs are > thinking when the decide they add dozens of new dependencies like > that. Devs are thinki

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 29 July 2024 16:10:10 BST Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 6:42 AM Peter Humphrey > > wrote: > > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote: > > > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrot

Re: [gentoo-user] 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 7/29/24 12:01 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > This morning a routine emerge -auvND wanted to install 17 new packages > for no apparent reason. > > Adding a 't' to the emerge options seems to point to pip, which now > wants to install a whole shed-load of new packages — among them > dev-python/poetry

[gentoo-user] 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Grant Edwards
This morning a routine emerge -auvND wanted to install 17 new packages for no apparent reason. Adding a 't' to the emerge options seems to point to pip, which now wants to install a whole shed-load of new packages — among them dev-python/poetry and a bunch of markdown and rich-text libraries. Oh g

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 6:42 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote: > > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > > > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SS

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote: > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google > > > doesn't help me much, though it has a good deal o

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Matt Connell
On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:32 +0100, Michael wrote: > > loginctl terminate-session > That'll exit the desktop session. I was on the right track at least. I'm accustomed to doing it with xfce-session-logout signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Michael
On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google > > doesn't help > > me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on scripting inside KDE. > > loginctl terminate

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Matt Connell
On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google > doesn't help > me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on scripting inside KDE. loginctl terminate-session ^ would be the first thing I would try.

[gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
Greetings, I'd like to be able to shut a KDE machine down from another room, over SSH. If I do that with a simple 'reboot' command, I lose all my desktop contents. Not surprising, as KDE is not shutting itself down but having the rug yanked out from under it. Is there a way to pass a shutdown