Re: [gentoo-user] UEFI install noob questions

2020-12-25 Thread cal
On 12/25/20 10:28 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > Also, given bloat over time, is 128 megabytes still sufficient for the > boot partition today? I plan to keep 2 kernels around at all times, > "Production" and "Experimental". > It depends on how you configure your kernel (and which modules are built-in

[gentoo-user] UEFI install noob questions

2020-12-25 Thread Walter Dnes
This is my first UEFI install, so please pardon the questions. 1) Partitioning questions: The standard layout example in https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Full/Installation#What_is_the_BIOS_boot_partition.3F says... > The BIOS boot partition is needed when a GPT partition layout is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-25 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:38:13 -0600, Dale wrote: > >>> You can also use systemd-boot, a separate package for OpenRC users, >>> which I have used without an initramfs. systemd-boot is very >>> lightweight and only requires a two line config for each kernel, plus >>> a two line

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:38:13 -0600, Dale wrote: > > You can also use systemd-boot, a separate package for OpenRC users, > > which I have used without an initramfs. systemd-boot is very > > lightweight and only requires a two line config for each kernel, plus > > a two line general config (timeout

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-25 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:55:23 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > >> One other thing, looking at the docs, it seems that refind requires >> initrd. Am I reading it correctly? If so, I may as well go with grub. >> Grub usually requires setting up stuff once. Initrd requires runnin

Re: [gentoo-user] Shorewall config again

2020-12-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 25 December 2020 16:32:13 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: > On 25 December 2020 10:44:52 CET, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >On Thursday, 24 December 2020 16:11:41 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> On 24 December 2020 15:17:02 CET, Peter Humphrey > > > > > > > >wrote: > >> >On Thursday, 24 December 2020

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 25 December 2020 19:17:24 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 06:45:42PM +, Jorge Almeida wrote > > > Learning about UEFI: https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ > > Suggestion: forget about grub; refind is the way to go (link above) > > Also: you don't need parted; gdisk is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:55:23 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > One other thing, looking at the docs, it seems that refind requires > initrd. Am I reading it correctly? If so, I may as well go with grub. > Grub usually requires setting up stuff once. Initrd requires running > more often. While I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-25 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 9:01 PM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 8:55 PM Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > > > The initrd documentation can be a bit overwhelming. Still, much better I meant "The refind documentation", of course.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-25 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 8:55 PM Walter Dnes wrote: > > > One other thing, looking at the docs, it seems that refind requires > initrd. Am I reading it correctly? If so, I may as well go with grub. > Grub usually requires setting up stuff once. Initrd requires running > more often. > No. I us

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-25 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 07:32:42PM +, Jorge Almeida wrote > On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 7:17 PM Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the pointers. Are there any changes I have to make in my > > linux kernel to boot UEFI? Note; legacy BIOS boot is *NOT* an option > > on my new Dell XPS8940.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-25 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 7:17 PM Walter Dnes wrote: > > Thanks for the pointers. Are there any changes I have to make in my > linux kernel to boot UEFI? Note; legacy BIOS boot is *NOT* an option > on my new Dell XPS8940. It's UEFI boot only. > I'm not sure that it is really necessary for refi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-25 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 06:45:42PM +, Jorge Almeida wrote > Learning about UEFI: https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ > Suggestion: forget about grub; refind is the way to go (link above) > Also: you don't need parted; gdisk is fine if you're OK with fdisk Thanks for the pointers. Are there a

Re: [gentoo-user] \ \ \ 2021 / / /

2020-12-25 Thread caveman رجل الكهف
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-25 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 4:41 PM Walter Dnes wrote: > > After 20 years on linux, I've been reduced to a newbie. BIOS boot, > Lilo, and fdisk served me well for 2 decades. Now I'm going to have to > learn UEFI, grub, and parted all at once. I'll start a new thread > tomorrow once I have my con

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 11:41:03 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > After 20 years on linux, I've been reduced to a newbie. BIOS boot, > Lilo, and fdisk served me well for 2 decades. Now I'm going to have to > learn UEFI, grub, and parted all at once. I'll start a new thread > tomorrow once I have my co

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-25 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 03:49:35PM -0700, Dan Egli wrote > I see your problem, I think. You don't have your ESP mounted, so > grub can't write the EFI files to it. You are likely trying to use > grub with grub-install /dev/sda. That won't work for EFI. > > mkdir /boot/efi > mount -t vfat /dev/sda1

Re: [gentoo-user] \ \ \ 2021 / / /

2020-12-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:07:59 +, caveman رجل الكهف wrote: > hi. i just want to help a bit by sharing a > thought that i think is useful to the civilisation > of life forms in general: > > - new year celebrations are wasteful in > several ways (e.g. waste on needless > purchas

Re: [gentoo-user] Shorewall config again

2020-12-25 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 25 December 2020 10:44:52 CET, Peter Humphrey wrote: >On Thursday, 24 December 2020 16:11:41 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On 24 December 2020 15:17:02 CET, Peter Humphrey > >wrote: >> >On Thursday, 24 December 2020 09:52:03 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >> Greetings, >> >> >> >> I asked about th

Re: [gentoo-user] U.V.C. Webcam Disconnects shortly after Registration

2020-12-25 Thread Michael
On Friday, 25 December 2020 03:56:58 GMT Ashley Dixon wrote: > How's it going dudes? > > I bought a Logitech C270 webcam from Argos about a year ago, which, > according to the LKDDb [1] and U.V.C. driver website [2], should work well > on Linux. Despite working flawlessly until recently, some str

Re: [gentoo-user] \ \ \ 2021 / / /

2020-12-25 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 24 December 2020 20:11:19 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > {@} * {@} * {@} Merry X-mas and a Happy New Year! > {@} * {@} * {@} * {@} Wish you all extra ordinary good luck! > {@} * {@} * {@} > \ \ \ 2021 / / / > > And thank you all for the help you trying

Re: [gentoo-user] Shorewall config again

2020-12-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 24 December 2020 16:11:41 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: > On 24 December 2020 15:17:02 CET, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >On Thursday, 24 December 2020 09:52:03 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> Greetings, > >> > >> I asked about this a long time ago, but I can't find the answer. > > > >Never min

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-25 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 03:19:08AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > >>> Something to look into before going the traditional raid/nfs route: >>> moosefs or lizardfs.  I am using arm based odroid HC2's and over the >>> softraid based nfs I was using there are considerable power savin

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-25 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 10:38:33AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > >> My router also has two USB plugs for sharing external hard drives or USB >> sticks.  I'm not talking about that because I don't like hooking a drive >> up over USB.  It never works well for some reason.  Accordi