Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 07/12/2018 07:10, Dale wrote: >> Now this is odd.  I changed the settings and ran emerge.  I decided to >> use -UDNa options to see if it would catch the changes.  It did.  Thing >> is, outside a few video type packages, there were no packages to be >> rebuilt.  It see

[gentoo-user] Re: CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 07/12/2018 07:10, Dale wrote: Now this is odd.  I changed the settings and ran emerge.  I decided to use -UDNa options to see if it would catch the changes.  It did.  Thing is, outside a few video type packages, there were no packages to be rebuilt.  It seems very few packages actually notice

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Corbin Bird wrote: >> I don't think a straight 'drop-in/replacement' will boot. >> >> The CPU scheduler does change from 'fam10h' to 'fam15h'. >> The '3DNow!' && 'enhanced 3DNow!' ( used in fam10h ) instructions are >> dropped / removed in fam15h. >> >> Doing the 'emerge -e @world' wi

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Dale
Corbin Bird wrote: > I don't think a straight 'drop-in/replacement' will boot. > > The CPU scheduler does change from 'fam10h' to 'fam15h'. > The '3DNow!' && 'enhanced 3DNow!' ( used in fam10h ) instructions are > dropped / removed in fam15h. > > Doing the 'emerge -e @world' with '-march=generic' i

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Corbin Bird
I don't think a straight 'drop-in/replacement' will boot. The CPU scheduler does change from 'fam10h' to 'fam15h'. The '3DNow!' && 'enhanced 3DNow!' ( used in fam10h ) instructions are dropped / removed in fam15h. Doing the 'emerge -e @world' with '-march=generic' is probably the only guaranteed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 07/12/2018 01:23, Dale wrote: >> Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 06/12/2018 23:45, Dale wrote: >> I also sometimes convert videos which can get CPU and/or memory hungry. > > Video encoding is one of the prime example where more cores will scale > very well. You can alm

[gentoo-user] Re: CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 07/12/2018 01:23, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/12/2018 23:45, Dale wrote: I also sometimes convert videos which can get CPU and/or memory hungry. Video encoding is one of the prime example where more cores will scale very well. You can almost halve encoding time by doubling

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 06/12/2018 23:45, Dale wrote: >>> >>> You won't get anything close to double the speed. The extra cores will >>> mostly go unused, unless you use applications that make use of them. >>> >>> You will still get a speed up due to the newer CPU architecture and >>> the hig

[gentoo-user] Re: CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/12/2018 23:45, Dale wrote: You won't get anything close to double the speed. The extra cores will mostly go unused, unless you use applications that make use of them. You will still get a speed up due to the newer CPU architecture and the higher frequency. What I was thinking about is s

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Dale
Jack wrote: > On 2018.12.06 15:58, Dale wrote: > [snip...] >> My concern is this tho.  I have my old CPU still installed and >> everything is compiled based on that.  So, I'm stable with the old >> CPU.  However, when I shutdown, take out the old CPU and install the >> new one, I'm concerned it may

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 06/12/2018 11:27, Dale wrote: >> >> I've bought but not yet installed a FX-8350 CPU.  I have this in my >> make.conf file: >> >> CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe" >> USE_CPU=" > > USE_CPU does not do anything, AFAICT. CPU features are specified in > CPU_FLAGS_X86. You c

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Jack
On 2018.12.06 15:58, Dale wrote: [snip...] My concern is this tho.  I have my old CPU still installed and everything is compiled based on that.  So, I'm stable with the old CPU.  However, when I shutdown, take out the old CPU and install the new one, I'm concerned it may not boot at all beca

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Grant Taylor
On 12/06/2018 02:27 AM, Dale wrote: From what I've read, I can use pvmove and pvremove to replace that drive. Just tell pv to move the data and when done, remove the old drive. After that, the new 6TB drive will be used in that PV and the 3TB drive can be used for something else. Is it really

[gentoo-user] Re: CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/12/2018 11:27, Dale wrote: I've bought but not yet installed a FX-8350 CPU.  I have this in my make.conf file: CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe" USE_CPU=" USE_CPU does not do anything, AFAICT. CPU features are specified in CPU_FLAGS_X86. You can get appropriate flags using the app-port

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Dale
Hi, I think that is how I got the flags for the current CPU.  Those commands look familiar.  Since then, I think cpuid2cpuflags can do most of it, tho it does seem to fall short on some flags.  The way you did it reveals a lot more details.  My concern is this tho.  I have my old CPU still instal

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Corbin Bird
My two cents worth : Update gcc before changing any hardware. With gcc somewhat current, try this on the replacement CPU. This gives a listing of all CPU supported compiler flags. Including -mtune / -march :) gcc -c -Q -march=native --help=target sample of output : -msse4

[gentoo-user] Kdewebkit puzzle : solved

2018-12-06 Thread Philip Webb
I was trying to update to KDE Frameworks 5.52.0 when I ran into an obstacle with Kdewebkit which I hadn't seen previously : when configuring, Emerge got stuck due to a Cmake mismatch. I found the solution by giving Google a long string from the build log & thereby getting a query to the Gentoo Ita

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread J. Roeleveld
Be careful to reduce the interval for reporting the progress. Not sure if the memory leak was fixed yet, I ended up setting the interval to 10 to 30 minutes in the past to avoid memory issues. -- Joost On December 6, 2018 10:03:31 AM UTC, Neil Bothwick wrote: >On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 03:27:31 -0600,

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 03:27:31 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> Now to the second question.  I found a 8TB hard drive and bought it.  My >> plan is to take my 6TB backup drive and install it in place of a 3TB >> drive which has LVM on it.  I plan to use the 8TB drive as a external >> bac

Re: [gentoo-user] RAM checks for chromium

2018-12-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 11:11:06 GMT Mick wrote: > On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 10:12:10 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: > > The main reason I've ditched chrome and chromium altogether is that they > > insist on redirecting me to their mobile site - and this is a 27-inch > > screen! But I'm also u

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 03:27:31 -0600, Dale wrote: > Now to the second question.  I found a 8TB hard drive and bought it.  My > plan is to take my 6TB backup drive and install it in place of a 3TB > drive which has LVM on it.  I plan to use the 8TB drive as a external > backup drive in the end.  Will

[gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions.

2018-12-06 Thread Dale
Howdy, I mentioned in other threads that I'm doing some upgrades to my system.  My first question is about a CPU upgrade.  I currently have this for my CPU, from cpuinfo: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor I've bought but not yet installed a FX-8350 CPU.  I have this in my make.conf file: CFLAG