Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 05 April 2015 21:05:15 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Sonntag, 5. April 2015, 19:03:43 schrieb Peter Humphrey: > > On Sunday 05 April 2015 18:29:05 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > Do you see anything that is actually broken? > > > > Apart from perl-cleaner and portage? Emerge exiting sil

Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 05 April 2015 12:24:20 Mick wrote: --->8 > and then portage proceeds in emerging them. So something must not be > right with your circumstances, but I am not sure what ... It has me scratching my head too. Thanks for the report. -- Rgds Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-05 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, April 03, 2015 8:52:18 AM Stroller wrote: > > On Thu, 2 April 2015, at 4:37 pm, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > > I prefer it this way. I do not want all the nice easy-to read/edit > > configuration stuff in /etc/portage encrypted some Windows Registry > > break-alike. > > What's bad ab

[gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-05 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > I think we need to get away from solutions that clutter up > > configuration in the first place. I'm not under any illusions that > > this will ever be perfect, but I do think we can do better. Amen. > Agreed, but this is about managing the options we

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Sonntag, 5. April 2015, 21:53:35 schrieb Martin Vaeth: > Moreover, I didn't check before the rebuild, but after > the rebuild there is no 5.20.1 in @INC. > (So it might be even the case that the rebuild is *necessary*). > Sure about this? huet

[gentoo-user] Re: Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Martin Vaeth
Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Minor updates (5.x.y -> 5.x.y+1) do not need any rebuilds > or reinstallations of modules. This is at most partially correct: At least, after the update, the install directories change; here from /usr/lib/perl5/{vendor_perl,}/5.20.1 to /usr/lib/perl5/{vendor_perl,}/

Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Sonntag, 5. April 2015, 19:03:43 schrieb Peter Humphrey: > On Sunday 05 April 2015 18:29:05 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > Do you see anything that is actually broken? > > Apart from perl-cleaner and portage? Emerge exiting silently after being

Re: [gentoo-user] amavisd: running or not running???

2015-04-05 Thread Urs Schütz
On 04/05/15 14:57, Jarry wrote: Hi Gentoo-users, I have this strange problem: I can not start amavisd because it is running, and at the same time I can not stop amavisd because it is not running. How's that possible? vs4 ~ # /etc/init.d/amavisd start * WARNING: amavisd has already been starte

[gentoo-user] amavisd: running or not running???

2015-04-05 Thread Jarry
Hi Gentoo-users, I have this strange problem: I can not start amavisd because it is running, and at the same time I can not stop amavisd because it is not running. How's that possible? vs4 ~ # /etc/init.d/amavisd start * WARNING: amavisd has already been started vs4 ~ # /etc/init.d/amavisd stop

Re: [gentoo-user] portage summary logs not rotated any more

2015-04-05 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Alex Corkwell wrote: > On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 06:31:43PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Mick wrote: > > > > On Sunday 05 Apr 2015 14:19:16 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Mick > wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 05 April 2015 18:29:05 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Do you see anything that is actually broken? Apart from perl-cleaner and portage? Emerge exiting silently after being given a list of packages to emerge doesn't exactly seem like normal behaviour to me. It was told "emerge -v1 ...[lis

Re: [gentoo-user] portage summary logs not rotated any more

2015-04-05 Thread Alex Corkwell
On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 06:31:43PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Mick wrote: > > On Sunday 05 Apr 2015 14:19:16 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Mick wrote: > > An observation I've made, is that my log rotation seems to

Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 05 April 2015 13:44:25 Alan McKinnon wrote: > When I occasionally run into bizarre weirdness like this, I usually wait > one hour, re-sync and try again. If it still fails, then go looking > further. > > Significant updates to the CVS tree are not atomic and every now and > then you can

Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Sonntag, 5. April 2015, 11:50:53 schrieb Peter Humphrey: > Hello list, > > Today's routine update included dev-lang/perl-5.20.2 and two perl virtuals. > Since emerging those portage has stopped working: perl-cleaner gives it a > list of 71 pack

Re: [gentoo-user] portage summary logs not rotated any more

2015-04-05 Thread Mick
On Sunday 05 Apr 2015 16:31:43 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > I guess I have to figure out what the error message shown below is all > about: > 501 Not authorised --- Reply not authenticated This is most likely chrony: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/289231 If logrotate works as e

Re: [gentoo-user] portage summary logs not rotated any more

2015-04-05 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
28 08:33 rc.log-20141228.gz > > -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 4003 Jan 4 19:51 rc.log-20150104.gz > > -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 3026 Jan 12 08:57 rc.log-20150112.gz > > drwxrwx--- 2 rootportage4096 Oct 29 2013 sandbox > > -rw--- 1 rootroot 6406

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-04-05 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 14:41:12 +0200, lee wrote: >>> > On Linux now there's the Magic SysRq Key feature for that. I always can't remember which keys to press with that, so I have it disabled.

Re: [gentoo-user] portage summary logs not rotated any more

2015-04-05 Thread Mick
On Sunday 05 Apr 2015 14:19:16 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Mick wrote: > > On Sunday 05 Apr 2015 06:39:31 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Mick wrote: > > > > On Saturday 04 Apr 2015 20:35:31 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > > > > My porta

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On 5 April 2015 14:27:27 BST, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Neil Bothwick > wrote: > > > > Or leave /etc/portage full of cruft and crap and fix any problem it > may > > cause later on, when you have even less time ;-) > > > > Hmm, have an hour of free time now, at the cos

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Or leave /etc/portage full of cruft and crap and fix any problem it may > cause later on, when you have even less time ;-) > Hmm, have an hour of free time now, at the cost of maybe having an hour less of free time a year from now, maybe.

Re: [gentoo-user] portage summary logs not rotated any more

2015-04-05 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 05 Apr 2015 06:39:31 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Mick wrote: > > > On Saturday 04 Apr 2015 20:35:31 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > > > My portage summary logs don't seem to be rotated any more. > > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 5 Apr 2015 07:21:01 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > It's like being a teenager again, the longer you leave tidying your > > room, the longer it takes when your mum makes you do it :) > > > > Don't want to harp on it, but I almost never have to clean my world > file, and when I do I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 04:41:33 -0500, Dale wrote: > > I got into that situation once, you just need to bite the bullet and > > work through the output. It's not as bad as it looks as the same > > entry can cause multiple reports, so once you clean up a couple of > > entries the output can get signif

Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/04/2015 11:50, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > Today's routine update included dev-lang/perl-5.20.2 and two perl virtuals. > Since emerging those portage has stopped working: perl-cleaner gives it a > list of 71 packages to emerge but portage does nothing with them - it just > exi

Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Mick
On Sunday 05 Apr 2015 10:50:53 Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > Today's routine update included dev-lang/perl-5.20.2 and two perl virtuals. > Since emerging those portage has stopped working: perl-cleaner gives it a > list of 71 packages to emerge but portage does nothing with them - it jus

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-04-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 14:41:12 +0200, lee wrote: >> On Linux now there's the Magic SysRq Key feature for that. >>> I always can't remember which keys to press with that, so I have it >>> disabled. >> BUSIER backwards. >> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > It's like being a teenager again, the longer you leave tidying your room, > the longer it takes when your mum makes you do it :) > Don't want to harp on it, but I almost never have to clean my world file, and when I do I don't need any tools

[gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, Today's routine update included dev-lang/perl-5.20.2 and two perl virtuals. Since emerging those portage has stopped working: perl-cleaner gives it a list of 71 packages to emerge but portage does nothing with them - it just exits silently. Then perl-cleaner lists some hundreds of f

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-05 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 02:24:13 -0500, Dale wrote: > It seems you can't win with that thing. LOL >>> You can win, by running it reasonably often and actually doing >>> something about the output. Ignore a few lines and they soon become a >>> few more, and then a few mor

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 5 Apr 2015 00:52:30 -0400, Boricua Siempre wrote: > Geentoo power first quantum super computer in 2101 and power all > galactic cofederation computers. > It was first supercomputer to crack secret of time travel in 2307 and > become self conchious in 2402. Add this to /usr/portage/profile

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 02:24:13 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> It seems you can't win with that thing. LOL > > You can win, by running it reasonably often and actually doing > > something about the output. Ignore a few lines and they soon become a > > few more, and then a few more still... > Thing is,

Re: [gentoo-user] portage summary logs not rotated any more

2015-04-05 Thread Mick
On Sunday 05 Apr 2015 06:39:31 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Mick wrote: > > On Saturday 04 Apr 2015 20:35:31 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > > My portage summary logs don't seem to be rotated any more. > > > > > > ls -lt `pwd`/summary.log* > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 portage por

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-04-05 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 14:41:12 +0200, lee wrote: > >>> On Linux now there's the Magic SysRq Key feature for that. >> I always can't remember which keys to press with that, so I have it >> disabled. > BUSIER backwards. > >> And when the keyboard is unresponsive, it won't work.

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-05 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 07:33:06 -0500, Dale wrote: > eix-test-obsolete >>> Many thanks, it certainly seems to. >>> >>> It seems to do a bit more besides, unruly in its verboseness, but I >>> won't bother trying to interpret the rest of its output. >> It's one reason I do