Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Strange behaviour of google certificates.

2015-04-02 Thread Gevisz
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 15:57:20 + (UTC) James wrote: > Walter Dnes waltdnes.org> writes: > > > > > So, I am using Claws Mail that downloads e-mails from several > > > google mail accounts (all are mine :) and about once or twice > > > in a month get into the situation when Claws asks me to ver

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Strange behaviour of google certificates.

2015-04-02 Thread Gevisz
On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 08:26:12 +0200 bitlord wrote: > On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 11:57:26 +0300 > Gevisz wrote: > > > On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 03:52:40 -0400 "Walter Dnes" > > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:19:45PM +0300, Gevisz wrote > > > > > > > So, I am using Claws Mail that downloads e-mail

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Strange behaviour of google certificates.

2015-04-02 Thread bitlord
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 11:57:26 +0300 Gevisz wrote: > On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 03:52:40 -0400 "Walter Dnes" > wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:19:45PM +0300, Gevisz wrote > > > > > So, I am using Claws Mail that downloads e-mails from several > > > google mail accounts (all are mine :) and about

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, April 03, 2015 5:05:35 AM waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Boricua Siempre wrote: > > > Hello > > > > I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating > > systems are use in quantum computers. And I read quantum computers > > I don't think that (yet) there exists compute

Re: [gentoo-user] multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:44:04AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote > On Thursday 02 April 2015 21:30:14 Walter Dnes wrote: > > > I recently upgraded a 7+ year old machine from 32-bit Gentoo to 64-bit- > > only Gentoo (no-multilib) and I don't have any apps with problems as 64- > > bit only. > > Do yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread wabenbau
wrote: > with the movement of particles. It is a phenomenon that results from > the quantum entanglement of e.g. two electrons and has to do with the > nonlocality of such phenomenons. When you measure the quantum > attributes of one of these two electrons you instantaneous influence > the quantu

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread wabenbau
Boricua Siempre wrote: > Hello > > I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating > systems are use in quantum computers. And I read quantum computers I don't think that (yet) there exists computers that are completely based on quantum components. Maybe they have a quantum

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Purchase and setup of monitor calibration device

2015-04-02 Thread wabenbau
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > A wide gamut monitor is a great thing even if you don't need it for > > softproofing. I shot a lot of colorful photos (e.g. from bugs, > > blossoms and live concerts with colored limelights). They look > > great on an AdobeRGB monitor but much more "boring" on a stan

Re: [gentoo-user] multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 02 April 2015 21:30:14 Walter Dnes wrote: > I recently upgraded a 7+ year old machine from 32-bit Gentoo to 64-bit- > only Gentoo (no-multilib) and I don't have any apps with problems as 64- > bit only. Do you have Flash? If that runs on no-multilib I'd consider switching to that pro

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 02 April 2015 18:19:47 Marc Joliet wrote: > % grep PORTAGE /etc/kernels/* > /etc/kernels/kernel-config-3.19.2-gentoo:CONFIG_GENTOO_LINUX_PORTAGE=y > /etc/kernels/kernel-config-3.19.3-gentoo:CONFIG_GENTOO_LINUX_PORTAGE=y # ls -l /etc/kernels /bin/ls: cannot access /etc/kernels: No such

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 03 April 2015 01:33:45 Ivan Viso Altamirano wrote: > As far as i know , there isnt any Quantum os out there Not only no OS, but no hardware either. I don't see Gentoo having a quantum version any time soon ;-) -- Rgds Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice

2015-04-02 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 02:09:57PM -0400, German wrote: > Thank you, but are there anyone around who uses Mutt with gmail? I use mutt with gmail IMAP and the following flags: [ebuild R] mail-client/mutt-1.5.23-r5 USE="berkdb crypt gdbm gpg imap kerberos nls sasl smime smtp ssl -debug -doc

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, April 03, 2015 1:25:59 AM Ivan Viso Altamirano wrote: > Ii think it is about Quantum bonds . In wich 2 particles share the same > State at any distance . And about PhDs extracting research funds from politicians :) -- Fernando Rodriguez

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 02 April 2015 17:25:39 »Q« wrote: > /2015/03/31/website-update.html> Good link - thanks! -- Rgds Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Ivan Viso Altamirano
I forgot again . As far as i know , there isnt any Quantum os out there . Just qcpus performing a very simple algorythm. Because the particles still cant hold their state for long enough.

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Ivan Viso Altamirano
Btw . If the universe where that easy yo destroy ,it would already be destroyed. Is just an estadistic question . Is just very improbable that we are the most advanced lifeform in it . All if this written bi phone El 03/04/2015 01:25, "Ivan Viso Altamirano" escribió: > Ii think it is about Quant

Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Ivan Viso Altamirano
Ii think it is about Quantum bonds . In wich 2 particles share the same State at any distance .

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-02 Thread Mick
On Friday 03 Apr 2015 00:08:53 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:40:20AM +0200, me, myself and I wrote: > > I used this opportunity to finally rid myself of Skype entirely. Nobody > > knows how it’s still possible to use that Microsoft infested spyware on > > Linux anway, > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Hungry firefox

2015-04-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:02:54AM +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 03:28:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > > > > Do you have to kill the whole browser and not just the offending tab? > > > That's just bad programming... > > > > Do you use FF yourself ? -- if there's only

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:40:20AM +0200, me, myself and I wrote: > I used this opportunity to finally rid myself of Skype entirely. Nobody > knows how it’s still possible to use that Microsoft infested spyware on Linux > anway, how it’s possible → how long it’s still possible -- Gruß | Greetin

Re: [gentoo-user] Hungry firefox

2015-04-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 03:28:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > > Do you have to kill the whole browser and not just the offending tab? > > That's just bad programming... > > Do you use FF yourself ? -- if there's only 1 tab open & you kill it, > it kills the whole FF job too. I hate it when br

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:23:21AM +0100, Mick wrote: > Hmm ... I don't think setting abi_x86_32 globally is necessary, unless you > want to have 32bit libs for ALL packages that these exist for, whether you > use > them or not. I mean that for Skype you have no alternative at present, but >

[gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer

2015-04-02 Thread Boricua Siempre
Hello I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating systems are use in quantum computers. And I read quantum computers can use particols moving faster than light but on other book particels faster than light make analog sonar boom that can destroy universe. Is quantum computer

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-04-02 Thread »Q«
On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 17:03:15 +0300 "Ivan T. Ivanov" wrote: > On Wed, 2015-04-01 at 01:37 +0200, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > This really made my day. :-) > > > > https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html > > Eeh, it is no longer available, I mean the first version. > > Do

[gentoo-user] Re: Hungry firefox

2015-04-02 Thread »Q«
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 03:28:43 -0400 Philip Webb wrote: > 150401 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 11:34:19 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > >> Occasionally, I've had javascripts running away with the CPU, > >> which stops when I kill FF & restart it. That's just bad JS > >> programming. > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:12:40PM -0300, Francisco Ares wrote > Hi, > > How does one know previously which packages will require 32 bit ABI ? > > I have two systems (among others) to consider: one is very simple, built > using as fewer packages as possible, it is the development system for an >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-04-02 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2015-04-02, Dale wrote: > >> Well, let's not forget about having the word "login:" burned into the >> screen too. Me, I always turned mine off when I left for the day. >> Everyone else tho, they could see their login prompt all the time, just >> in a slightly different

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-04-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
On 02.04.2015 23:21, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > I can reemerge, sure. Reboot right now ... not so ideal ... ok, tried that. didn't change anything. I can deal with it. It just doesn't work as expected.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Purchase and setup of monitor calibration device

2015-04-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 06:36:16PM +0200, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > I thought about getting a wide-gamut display, namely a Dell with > > rgb-LEDs, but in the end decided against it because its quality seems > > But if you buy online, you always have the option t

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-04-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
On 02.04.2015 23:14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > Stefan, this is kinda stupid, but have you tried to re-emerge gummiboot? nope gummiboot was emerged here on march, 7th one day before I started this thread. I can reemerge, sure. Reboot right now ... not so ideal ...

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-04-02 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Thursday, April 02, 2015 11:06:44 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > On 09.03.2015 09:16, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > > # ls -l loader/entries/ > > total 2 > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 329 9. Mär 09:04 > > e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.0-gentoo.conf > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 329 9. M

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-04-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > On 09.03.2015 09:16, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > > # ls -l loader/entries/ > > total 2 > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 329 9. Mär 09:04 > > e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.0-gentoo.conf > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 329 9. Mär 09:

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-04-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
On 09.03.2015 09:16, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > # ls -l loader/entries/ > total 2 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 329 9. Mär 09:04 > e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.0-gentoo.conf > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 329 9. Mär 09:01 > e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.1-gentoo.conf > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:13:38 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > > That's where I was thinking of. It's not there right now, are edits > > moderated? > I just hit Ctrl+F5 and it's visible for me. (I'm logged in to the wiki > though.) > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd#See_Also > > I just logged o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Please explain X fonts?

2015-04-02 Thread Urs Schütz
On 04/01/15 21:03, lee wrote: Urs Schütz writes: On 03/29/15 06:23, lee wrote: walt writes: On 03/26/2015 07:15 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: As to fonts, I highly recommend "Source Code Pro" and "Source Sans Pro". They finally resolved my long search for good fonts. Unfortunately, they don

Re: [gentoo-user] multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-02 Thread Mick
On Thursday 02 Apr 2015 18:12:40 Francisco Ares wrote: > Hi, > > How does one know previously which packages will require 32 bit ABI ? > > I have two systems (among others) to consider: one is very simple, built > using as fewer packages as possible, it is the development system for an > embedded

[gentoo-user] multilib - do I need it?

2015-04-02 Thread Francisco Ares
Hi, How does one know previously which packages will require 32 bit ABI ? I have two systems (among others) to consider: one is very simple, built using as fewer packages as possible, it is the development system for an embedded equipment, and it is 64 bit ABI only - no multilib; the other is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > > I prefer it this way. I do not want all the nice easy-to read/edit > configuration stuff in /etc/portage encrypted some Windows Registry > break-alike. Nobody is proposing any changes to the format of package.use. The only proposal is th

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-02 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Thu, 02 Apr 2015 10:48:13 +0100 schrieb Peter Humphrey : > On Wednesday 01 April 2015 19:12:14 Marc Joliet wrote: > > Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:29:15 +0100 > > > > schrieb Peter Humphrey : > > > On Wednesday 01 April 2015 10:53:15 Marc Joliet wrote: > > > > Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 09:43:21 +0100 > >

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Strange behaviour of google certificates.

2015-04-02 Thread James
Walter Dnes waltdnes.org> writes: > > So, I am using Claws Mail that downloads e-mails from several > > google mail accounts (all are mine :) and about once or twice > > in a month get into the situation when Claws asks me to verify > > and change the google certificates, first in one direction

[gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-04-02, Róbert Čerňanský wrote: > On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 09:41:10 +0100 > Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 07:21:01 +0200, Róbert Čerňanský wrote: >> >> > Besides there is such database now - it is your (abused) >> > package.use! You have to manually add entries to it and I do not

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-04-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-04-02, Dale wrote: > Well, let's not forget about having the word "login:" burned into the > screen too. Me, I always turned mine off when I left for the day. > Everyone else tho, they could see their login prompt all the time, just > in a slightly different color. o_- Except there wa

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo announces total website makeover :-)

2015-04-02 Thread Ivan T. Ivanov
On Wed, 2015-04-01 at 01:37 +0200, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > This really made my day. :-) > > https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html Eeh, it is no longer available, I mean the first version. Do anyone think we can ask for permanent link to old version? Thanks, Ivan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > On 01.04.2015 19:28, Róbert Čerňanský wrote: > >> Big advantage of automatic deps over --autounmask is that auto deps >> would not mess with user configuration files in /etc. Changed USE >> flags would be stored internally by portage. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 11:29:33 +0200, Róbert Čerňanský wrote: > > Portage doesn't change your package.use file, it creates a new one > > using the standard CONFIG_PROTECT process. Then you use etc-update or > > similar to view and verify the changes. > > What I am trying to tell is that portage ma

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc->systemd command comparison

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 01 April 2015 19:12:14 Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:29:15 +0100 > > schrieb Peter Humphrey : > > On Wednesday 01 April 2015 10:53:15 Marc Joliet wrote: > > > Am Wed, 01 Apr 2015 09:43:21 +0100 > > [...] > > > > Apparently it's (partially) due to CONFIG_GENTOO_LINUX_PO

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 30 March 2015 22:23:21 James wrote: > package.use via automask is getting a bit out of hand, already. > Somehow, I do not feel good about the devs solution is to > munge up something I have already been abusing. So, does > 'eix-test-obsolete' have some automated option to clean up > pack

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-02 Thread Róbert Čerňanský
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 09:41:10 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 07:21:01 +0200, Róbert Čerňanský wrote: > > > Besides there is such database now - it is your (abused) > > package.use! You have to manually add entries to it and I do not > > know any database slower than human typing t

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Strange behaviour of google certificates.

2015-04-02 Thread Gevisz
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 03:52:40 -0400 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:19:45PM +0300, Gevisz wrote > > > So, I am using Claws Mail that downloads e-mails from several > > google mail accounts (all are mine :) and about once or twice > > in a month get into the situation when Claws a

Re: [gentoo-user] Hungry firefox

2015-04-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 03:28:43 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > >> Occasionally, I've had javascripts running away with the CPU, > >> which stops when I kill FF & restart it. That's just bad JS > >> programming. > > Do you have to kill the whole browser and not just the offending tab? > > That's just b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 07:21:01 +0200, Róbert Čerňanský wrote: > Besides there is such database now - it is your (abused) package.use! > You have to manually add entries to it and I do not know any database > slower than human typing to a text file ;-) (There is autounmask option > of course but then

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib"

2015-04-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 14:05:28 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > I think we've just gotten into a mode where we automate user > configuration instead of eliminating the need for it. That's a good way of looking at it. Most USE flags are not set by the user by by the profile. By selecting a particular pr

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Strange behaviour of google certificates.

2015-04-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:19:45PM +0300, Gevisz wrote > So, I am using Claws Mail that downloads e-mails from several > google mail accounts (all are mine :) and about once or twice > in a month get into the situation when Claws asks me to verify > and change the google certificates, first in one

Re: [gentoo-user] Hungry firefox

2015-04-02 Thread Philip Webb
150401 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 11:34:19 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: >> Occasionally, I've had javascripts running away with the CPU, >> which stops when I kill FF & restart it. That's just bad JS programming. > Do you have to kill the whole browser and not just the offending tab? >