Re: [gentoo-user] systemd not shutting down all the way

2014-06-05 Thread Bryan Gardiner
On June 6, 2014 01:27:51 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Hi. Whenever I issue the command shutdown -h now to shutdown the > system, having booted under systemd, the computer never actually shuts > down. It does stop some services, but eventually just sits there -- > about the last one I see is som

[gentoo-user] problems with performance when booted using systemd

2014-06-05 Thread covici
Hi. I am having some strange performance problems when booted under systemd. These problems happened a little bit under openrc, but are much more pronounced with systemd. I am using just virtual consoles, no gui whatsoever at the moment. I also use tmux with 4 windows in one of the vcs. My sys

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Mick
On Friday 06 Jun 2014 00:15:02 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 05 June 2014 13:58:45 Mick wrote: > > .., I've keyworded sys-power/upower-0.99.0 for now on one machine > > and it seems to work fine, without imposing systemd at the moment. :-) > > I bet you have quite a lot of systemd component

[gentoo-user] systemd not shutting down all the way

2014-06-05 Thread covici
Hi. Whenever I issue the command shutdown -h now to shutdown the system, having booted under systemd, the computer never actually shuts down. It does stop some services, but eventually just sits there -- about the last one I see is something about sound card state and that is all, it just waits t

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Mapping random numbers (PRNG)

2014-06-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 9:56 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > I am experimenting with the C code of the ISAAC pseudo random number generator > (http://burtleburtle.net/bob/rand/isaacafa.html). > > Currently the implementation creates (on my embedded linux) 32 bit > hexadecimal output. So it's a 32 bit intege

[gentoo-user] OT: Mapping random numbers (PRNG)

2014-06-05 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I am experimenting with the C code of the ISAAC pseudo random number generator (http://burtleburtle.net/bob/rand/isaacafa.html). Currently the implementation creates (on my embedded linux) 32 bit hexadecimal output. >From this I want to create random numbers in the range of [a-Za-z0-9] *with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 05 June 2014 13:58:45 Mick wrote: > .., I've keyworded sys-power/upower-0.99.0 for now on one machine > and it seems to work fine, without imposing systemd at the moment. :-) I bet you have quite a lot of systemd components lurking in the background though, ready to take over the wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On 06/05/2014 11:40 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 16:15:11 +0200 > "Dutch Ingraham" wrote: > >> If you could point me to the proper command set to make the switch, >> I'd appreciate it. > > Remove the overlay (`layman -d mate`) and then do a world upgrade. > > It is as simple as t

Re: [gentoo-user] Demise of Truecrypt - surprised I haven't seen t his discussed here yet?

2014-06-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Now that’s an interesting idea I haven’t thought of yet. Thanks. My LUKS > passphrase is much more secure than my ancient user password anyway *hehe*. > Only if it isn't the same. :) In theory neither really need be algorithmically mo

Re: [gentoo-user] Demise of Truecrypt - surprised I haven't seen t his discussed here yet?

2014-06-05 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 12:24:22AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 21:59:18 +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > I encrypt my home partition with LUKS and enter a passphrase > > during boot. But I always wanted to get decryption upon login running, > > especially because it woul

[gentoo-user] Re: quick installs on older/embedded hardware

2014-06-05 Thread James
Walter Dnes waltdnes.org> writes: > You may be interested in buildroot http://buildroot.net/ and > http://buildroot.net/about.html It's nominally aimed at cross-compiling > for embedded systems, but it looks like it handles just about > everything. I'm not a developer, so I don't know if thi

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Mick
On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 15:15:11 Dutch Ingraham wrote: >     > >   > > If you could point me to the proper command set > to make the switch, I'd appreciate it. > > Please see if you can switch off HTML when posting to this list. Check man layman, the delete command is: layman -d -- Rega

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 16:15:11 +0200 "Dutch Ingraham" wrote: > If you could point me to the proper command set to make the switch, > I'd appreciate it. Remove the overlay (`layman -d mate`) and then do a world upgrade. It is as simple as that, as it'll upgrade all those packages to the versions th

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Dutch Ingraham
    Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 at 8:31 AM From: "Tom Wijsman" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:11:31 -0400 Dutch Ingraham wrote: > [nomerge ] mate-base/mate-1.6.0::mate-overlay You are still using the MATE overlay, which wasn

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Dutch Ingraham
    Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 at 8:18 AM From: "Samuli Suominen" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower On 05/06/14 15:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > On 06/05/2014 08:00 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 05/06/14 14:39, Dutch Ingraham wrote: >>> On 06/04/2014

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Mick
On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 12:26:09 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 05/06/14 13:47, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 06:23:38 +0100 > > > > Mick wrote: > >> Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a > >> gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they >

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:11:31 -0400 Dutch Ingraham wrote: > [nomerge ] mate-base/mate-1.6.0::mate-overlay You are still using the MATE overlay, which wasn't synced up with the latest changes; make layman sync, but if you want to be really sure just remove the overlay from layman and use MAT

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 15:17, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > On 06/05/2014 08:00 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 05/06/14 14:39, Dutch Ingraham wrote: >>> On 06/04/2014 08:02 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: Gentoo doesn't have write access to ::mate-overlay, it's completely unofficial Gentoo developers a

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On 06/05/2014 08:00 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 05/06/14 14:39, Dutch Ingraham wrote: >> On 06/04/2014 08:02 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >>> Gentoo doesn't have write access to ::mate-overlay, it's completely >>> unofficial >>> Gentoo developers are just as much users as you are for ::mate-ov

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On 06/05/2014 05:40 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 19:15:22 -0400 > Dutch Ingraham wrote: > >> Thanks everybody for your help. I've made the further suggested >> changes, but I remain with the three hard blocks. > > Can you provide the emerge output of the following command? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 14:39, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > On 06/04/2014 08:02 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> Gentoo doesn't have write access to ::mate-overlay, it's completely >> unofficial >> Gentoo developers are just as much users as you are for ::mate-overlay >> >> Enough said >> >> - Samuli >> >> > Sorry, b

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On 06/04/2014 08:02 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 05/06/14 02:15, Dutch Ingraham wrote: >> On 06/04/2014 03:17 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >>> On 04/06/14 20:11, Dutch Ingraham wrote: On 06/04/2014 07:22 AM, Daniel Troeder wrote: > Am 04.06.2014 06:05, schrieb Samuli Suominen: >> O

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 13:47, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 06:23:38 +0100 > Mick wrote: > >> Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a >> gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they >> want/need to continue using sleep and hibernate? > For them to hav

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 14:11, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Greg Woodbury wrote: >> Unfortunately, the advocates and implementers made some major political >> choices when they (apparently deliberately) chose to put the systemd >> stuff in /usr/lib instead of /lib. It was pointed ou

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Greg Woodbury wrote: > Unfortunately, the advocates and implementers made some major political > choices when they (apparently deliberately) chose to put the systemd > stuff in /usr/lib instead of /lib. It was pointed out that this > abrogated certain parts of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 06:23:38 +0100 Mick wrote: > Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a > gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they > want/need to continue using sleep and hibernate? For them to have support for sleep and hibernate, someone needs

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:34:49 -0400 Greg Woodbury wrote: > On 06/04/2014 11:11 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > It is a discussion about technological things, yes, but the art of > dealing with other people *is* politics [1]. Politics are also about dealing with power, not alone people; it is pos

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Mick
On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 10:08:53 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 05/06/14 12:03, Mick wrote: > > On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 08:25:30 Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> On 05/06/14 08:23, Mick wrote: > >>> Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a > >>> gentoo user will have to switch fr

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 00:27:28 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 19:15:22 -0400, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > I suppose its now time for an uninstall. Kind of disappointing; we > > are told Gentoo is about choices, and in fact that's true. I made > > the choice to use a pure openRC

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 19:15:22 -0400 Dutch Ingraham wrote: > Thanks everybody for your help. I've made the further suggested > changes, but I remain with the three hard blocks. Can you provide the emerge output of the following command? emerge --tree --unordered-diplay -uDNv @world This mak

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 12:03, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 08:25:30 Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 05/06/14 08:23, Mick wrote: >>> Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a >>> gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they >>> want/need to continue using sle

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Mick
On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 08:25:30 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 05/06/14 08:23, Mick wrote: > > Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a > > gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they > > want/need to continue using sleep and hibernate? > > For those t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 08:23, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 04 Jun 2014 23:27:05 Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 05/06/14 01:14, »Q« wrote: >>> On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200 >>> >>> Alan McKinnon wrote: The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision still works fine and likely w