Re: [gentoo-user] LDAP server questions

2014-02-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 18 February 2014 06:03:02 CET, Pandu Poluan wrote: >Hello list! > >I'm planning to replace an Active Directory server currently >functioning >*only* as an LDAP server, with a dedicated Linux-based LDAP server. > >Now, the function of the LDAP server is at the moment: >* Provide the settings dat

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Gevisz wrote: [ snip ] > How can you be sure if something is "large enough" if, as you say below, > you do not care about probabilities? By writing correct code? >> > SysVinit code size is about 10 000 lines of code, OpenRC contains >> > about 13 000 lines, syste

[gentoo-user] LDAP server questions

2014-02-17 Thread Pandu Poluan
Hello list! I'm planning to replace an Active Directory server currently functioning *only* as an LDAP server, with a dedicated Linux-based LDAP server. Now, the function of the LDAP server is at the moment: * Provide the settings database for Axigen email server * Provide group membership for Bl

Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server

2014-02-17 Thread Edward M
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:41:18 -0800 Edward M wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:11:17 +0530 > Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > > > No problem. Actually glassfish needs JDK7 as per their docs. So any > > JDK7 should work. Java EE is just a specification to be implemented > > by application servers. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:53 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 17/02/2014 17:29, Stroller wrote: >> >> On Sun, 16 February 2014, at 4:41 pm, Alan McKinnon >> wrote: >>> ... >>> Whatever problems Red Hat are trying to solve in the Red Hat space are >>> problems that do not affect me, so I do not need

Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server

2014-02-17 Thread Edward M
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:11:17 +0530 Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > No problem. Actually glassfish needs JDK7 as per their docs. So any > JDK7 should work. Java EE is just a specification to be implemented by > application servers. Yes Java EE extends Java SE platform with add ons, that is why i w

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Gevisz
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:35:34 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Andrew Savchenko > wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:16:36 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > >> wrote: > >> > Am 16.02.2014 21:08, schrie

Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server

2014-02-17 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On 18 Feb 2014 06:04, "Edward M" wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:57:46 -0800 > Edward M. wrote: > > > Sorry for top post using my phone > > Ice tea is Java se. Glass server uses > > Java EE because EE has added API and > > Runtime to build enterprise secure apps. > > sorry the link did not hel

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > Sorry for entering others' dialog... > > > On 17.02.2014 21:13, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Tanstaafl >> wrote: >> [snip] > > Can you surgically remove systemd in the future without reverse >

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:13:39 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > It simply doesn't matter if systemd boils down to one monolithic binary, or >> > 600, if they are tied together in such a way that they can not >> > *individually* be repl

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:16:36 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann >> wrote: >> > Am 16.02.2014 21:08, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> >> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Volker Armin

Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server

2014-02-17 Thread Edward M
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:57:46 -0800 Edward M. wrote: > Sorry for top post using my phone > Ice tea is Java se. Glass server uses > Java EE because EE has added API and > Runtime to build enterprise secure apps. > sorry the link did not help. > > Sent from my Windows Phone > _

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:52:33 -0500 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2014-02-17 12:52 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > And this is a very, very bad idea. Looks like you don't know matter at > > all: to begin with kdbus protocol is NOT compatible dbus and special > > converter daemon will be needed to enable db

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/02/2014 17:29, Stroller wrote: > > On Sun, 16 February 2014, at 4:41 pm, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> ... >> Whatever problems Red Hat are trying to solve in the Red Hat space are >> problems that do not affect me, so I do not need Red Hat's solution. As >> for Gnome, I have yet to see a vali

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-17 12:52 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: And this is a very, very bad idea. Looks like you don't know matter at all: to begin with kdbus protocol is NOT compatible dbus and special converter daemon will be needed to enable dbus to talk to kdbus. The whole kdbus technology is very question

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
Sorry for entering others' dialog... On 17.02.2014 21:13, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: [snip] Can you surgically remove systemd in the future without reverse engineering half of what the LSB would look at the time, or will its developers ensure t

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:13:39 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > It simply doesn't matter if systemd boils down to one monolithic binary, or > > 600, if they are tied together in such a way that they can not > > *individually* be replaced *easily and simply* (ie, without having to > > rewrite the

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:16:36 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: > > Am 16.02.2014 21:08, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > >> wrote: > >> [ snip ] > >>> or it is an idiotic deci

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: [snip] > Maybe it is 'full of errors', but is the primary point true? False implies whatever you want it to imply. You can't prove anything if your assumptions are incorrect. >> There is actually little code inside PID 1; > > > The quoted text sa

RE: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server

2014-02-17 Thread Edward M .
Sorry for top post using my phone Ice tea is Java se. Glass server uses Java EE because EE has added API and Runtime to build enterprise secure apps. sorry the link did not help. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Nilesh Govindrajan Sent: ‎

[gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread »Q«
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:22:17 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: > How long has it been since Debian decided to go with systemd? Like, > three? So, up until three days ago I would have disagreed since > despite original upstream ditching ConsoleKit, it was still being > maintained by Debian and Gentoo m

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Stroller
On Sun, 16 February 2014, at 4:41 pm, Alan McKinnon wrote: > ... > Whatever problems Red Hat are trying to solve in the Red Hat space are > problems that do not affect me, so I do not need Red Hat's solution. As > for Gnome, I have yet to see a valid reason why Gnome *must* use > systemd; that i

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/02/2014 14:17, Tanstaafl wrote: > In fact, it seems to me that, since (from what I've read) the primary > reason that systemd was written in the first place was to provide > extremely fast boots *in virtualized environments*, having it be a > choice made by selecting a corresponding *profile*

Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server

2014-02-17 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Monday 17 February 2014 04:12 AM, Edward M wrote: > On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:14:24 +0530 > Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > >> rvices to customers, so compatibility is >> definitely a concern. I'm not exactly sure what the differences are >> between Oracle JDK & OpenJDK; the differences I found so fa

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 02/17/2014 06:17 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > Thanks to all who chimed in... > > On 2014-02-16 3:27 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Mick wrote: >> [snip] >>> You may have lost it in the link that Volker posted (thanks Volker), >>> but this >>> comment from HaakonK

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Tanstaafl
Thanks to all who chimed in... On 2014-02-16 3:27 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Mick wrote: [snip] You may have lost it in the link that Volker posted (thanks Volker), but this comment from HaakonKL probably sums it up: "... I will give Upstart this though:

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] easy to use proxy server

2014-02-17 Thread Mick
On Monday 17 Feb 2014 10:44:36 pat wrote: > Hi, > > Please, could someone suggest easy to use proxy server which supports SSL? > > Thanks > > Pat There are many options depending on your requirements. You can use apache, or nginx, or net-proxy/tinyproxy, or even net-misc/proxytunnel. Yo

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] easy to use proxy server

2014-02-17 Thread Randolph Maaßen
On Feb 17, 2014 11:46 AM, "pat" wrote: > > Hi, > > Please, could someone suggest easy to use proxy server which supports SSL? > > Thanks > > Pat > > > > Freehosting PIPNI - http://www.pipni.cz/ > > Have a look at squid (http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Fea

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] easy to use proxy server

2014-02-17 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On 17 Feb 2014 16:15, "pat" wrote: > > Hi, > > Please, could someone suggest easy to use proxy server which supports SSL? > > Thanks > > Pat > > > > Freehosting PIPNI - http://www.pipni.cz/ > > Forward - squid, apache. Reverse - squid, apache, nginx

[gentoo-user] [OT] easy to use proxy server

2014-02-17 Thread pat
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