Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/08/2013 08:20, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Wed, August 21, 2013 22:02, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:50:57 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: >> [snip] >> No one has demonstrated that it can. An initramfs isn't magic, it >> caries out a couple of trivial tasks before switching to the rea

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wed, August 21, 2013 22:02, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:50:57 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> > This sounds like a bug in LVM. If it was down to a version clash, why >> > did a restart find the PVs? >> >> Sorry, ianap, but I do know that this kind of thing has never happened >> to

Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative

2013-08-21 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Wednesday 21 August 2013 18:17:53 hasufell wrote: > The average java application is buggy, bloated and hard to maintain. And > that is a fact you have to realize as a distributor. Okay, then do you consider Jitsi average or not? I'm about to try it.

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 2013-08-20 2:54 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> >>> Unless you want to learn the ins and outs of using an initramfs (and >>> having a lot of fun and failed boots in the process), I highly >>> recommend using Dracut. It does everything f

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-08-20 2:54 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> Unless you want to learn the ins and outs of using an initramfs (and >> having a lot of fun and failed boots in the process), I highly >> recommend using Dracut. It does everything for you.

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:09:41 +0100, thegeezer wrote: > > I posted a script fragment that compares the contents of the kernel's > > initramfs config file with the live filesystem. Dracut users could use > > the same method by parsing the output from lsinitrd. > the script you posted referenced /us

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread thegeezer
On 08/21/2013 07:52 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:56:36 +0100, thegeezer wrote: > >> anyone have any good pointers to an initramfs interrogator, maybe that >> takes as argument kernel command line ? > I posted a script fragment that compares the contents of the kernel's > initra

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:50:57 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > This sounds like a bug in LVM. If it was down to a version clash, why > > did a restart find the PVs? > > Sorry, ianap, but I do know that this kind of thing has never happened > to me in my 8+ years of running this old system with a sep

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-08-21 2:52 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:56:36 +0100, thegeezer wrote: >> >>> anyone have any good pointers to an initramfs interrogator, maybe that >>> takes as argument kernel command line ? >> >> >> I posted a

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-21 2:52 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:56:36 +0100, thegeezer wrote: anyone have any good pointers to an initramfs interrogator, maybe that takes as argument kernel command line ? I posted a script fragment that compares the contents of the kernel's initramfs conf

[gentoo-user] Gentoo on Chromebook

2013-08-21 Thread James
Howdy! It seems that the chromebook uses portage, from what I have read. So to be consistent, I'd like to dual boot the chromium OS and Gentoo both. Anyone put natively compiled gentoo onto a chromebook? (Arm A15) [1] If so are you happy with it? All comments are welcome. James [1] http://w

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:56:36 +0100, thegeezer wrote: > anyone have any good pointers to an initramfs interrogator, maybe that > takes as argument kernel command line ? I posted a script fragment that compares the contents of the kernel's initramfs config file with the live filesystem. Dracut user

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:56 PM, thegeezer wrote: > anyone have any good pointers to an initramfs interrogator, maybe that > takes as argument kernel command line ? If you are looking to test an initramfs, qemu is handy. qemu-kvm -kernel /boot/vmlinuz -initrd /boot/initramfs.img -append "kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread thegeezer
On 08/21/2013 05:42 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, thegeezer wrote: >> On 08/21/2013 04:10 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:40:32 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> >> update LVM2 >> kernel remains the same >> reboot >> initramfs find

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, thegeezer wrote: > On 08/21/2013 04:10 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:40:32 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: >> > update LVM2 > kernel remains the same > reboot > initramfs finds all PVS and activates VG > main system init > /etc

Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative

2013-08-21 Thread hasufell
On 08/21/2013 05:59 PM, Jean-Christophe Bach wrote: > * hasufell [21.08.2013. @16:48:10 +0200]: > >> On 08/20/2013 05:12 PM, Randy Westlund wrote: >>> I've heard several people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that >>> it's not in the portage tree. >>> >> >> Jitsi is written in java and

Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative

2013-08-21 Thread Jean-Christophe Bach
* hasufell [21.08.2013. @16:48:10 +0200]: > On 08/20/2013 05:12 PM, Randy Westlund wrote: > > I've heard several people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that > > it's not in the portage tree. > > > > Jitsi is written in java and thus by design buggy, bloated and hard to > maintain. Wh

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread thegeezer
On 08/21/2013 04:10 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:40:32 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > update LVM2 kernel remains the same reboot initramfs finds all PVS and activates VG main system init /etc/init.d/lvm2 start error can't read from USB PVS log

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-21 11:10 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:40:32 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: update LVM2 kernel remains the same reboot initramfs finds all PVS and activates VG main system init /etc/init.d/lvm2 start error can't read from USB PVS login to system with missing PVS /etc/init

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:40:32 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> update LVM2 > >> kernel remains the same > >> reboot > >> initramfs finds all PVS and activates VG > >> main system init > >> /etc/init.d/lvm2 start > >> error can't read from USB PVS > >> login to system with missing PVS > >> /etc/init.d/l

Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative

2013-08-21 Thread hasufell
On 08/20/2013 05:12 PM, Randy Westlund wrote: > I've heard several people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that it's > not in the portage tree. > Jitsi is written in java and thus by design buggy, bloated and hard to maintain. If you care a lot, you can propose it in sunrise user overla

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-21 3:06 AM, thegeezer wrote: On 08/21/2013 02:13 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: The worry about falling out of sync, although justified, I think it's a little overreacted; even for things like LVM2 and NFS, how many times changes the metadata or format used by different versions? Nor

Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative

2013-08-21 Thread Marc Joliet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:35:09 +0400 schrieb the : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/20/13 19:12, Randy Westlund wrote: > > For a multitude of reasons, I'd like to get rid of skype. I've > > heard several people mention jitsi

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: installing Gentoo on a 2007 Macbook

2013-08-21 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Tue, 20 Aug 2013 23:24:36 -0700 schrieb Keith Dart : > Re , Marc Joliet said: > > Now since I am productive with it, I wanted to install Gentoo on it > > but have thus far failed. So here are my overall goals: > > > > - install Gentoo > > - ideally ditch OS X > > - boot using EFI instead of in

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

2013-08-21 Thread thegeezer
On 08/21/2013 02:13 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 01:54:26AM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote >>> No, the kernel has a mini filesystem (doesn't matter which directory >>> structure has inside), and it executes the in