Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 02 Aug 2013 21:41:07 Harry Putnam wrote: > Stroller writes: > > On 3 August 2013, at 04:03, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> ... > >> emerge -vp dev-vcs/git and come up with 194 pkgs that need to be > >> installed. > >> ... > >> > >> So I imagine I've done something thats causing that massive

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-08-03 Thread Steven J. Long
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > Steven J. Long wrote: > > > Again you're wilfully misinterpreting what I've said, and answering a > > completely different > > point. You didn't know the basics of how to go about approaching Gentoo. > While I (and others BTW) My point is simply this: there is a world

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 10:03:58AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote > FUD again. The backwards compability is still all there and udev can be > built standalone and ran standalone. For how long can it be built standalone? The following "FUD" brought to you courtesy of Kay Sievers... http://list

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 05:02:39AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote > Looking forward to lastrite sys-fs/eudev just like > sys-apps/module-init-tools already was removed as unnecessary later on. You want eudev removed, and Lennart Poettering wants udev on non-systemd systems dropped. Add those tw

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 02:42:36AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote > nope, you just believed all the FUD there has been out there. > i've said it many times, and i'll say it again: > > the only real different is USE="rule-generator" and that's it > > and sys-fs/eudev is constantly out of date and h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usb printer disappears on cups upgrade

2013-08-03 Thread William Kenworthy
On 04/08/13 09:42, walt wrote: > On 08/02/2013 07:23 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: >> I have a long running machine with a local epson usb printer using the >> kernel lpusb >> >> Using cups <=1.5.2-r4 I can print ... upgrade to 1.6.2-r* and cups cant >> see the usb printer. The only errors in the c

[gentoo-user] Re: usb printer disappears on cups upgrade

2013-08-03 Thread walt
On 08/02/2013 07:23 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: > I have a long running machine with a local epson usb printer using the > kernel lpusb > > Using cups <=1.5.2-r4 I can print ... upgrade to 1.6.2-r* and cups cant > see the usb printer. The only errors in the cups log are to do with > systemd serv

[gentoo-user] How much effort from udev-197-r3 to 206

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
I see an update to udev come up when investigating installing various other pkgs. eix shows I'm on 197-r3 and the most recent is 206. Will that be a hefty amount of change... and concomittant amount of work? Or something a lazy slug can manage?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:18:28 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > acero ~ # du -sh /usr/share/doc > 2.5G /usr/share/doc > > You will save much more space by using USE="-doc" (or perhaps even > adding /usr/share/doc to INSTALL_MASK), than by removing potentially > useful functionality. USE="-doc" w

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 03/08/13 06:20, Harry Putnam wrote: >> >> Nikos Chantziaras writes: >> >> [...] >> Unless I hear something that would indicate it will be too crippled even for the usage I plan. >>> >>> >>> You should of course put those USE

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 03/08/13 06:20, Harry Putnam wrote: Nikos Chantziaras writes: [...] Unless I hear something that would indicate it will be too crippled even for the usage I plan. You should of course put those USE flags in /etc/portage/package.use instead of setting them in the command-line, otherwise t

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras writes: [...] >> Unless I hear something that would indicate it will be too crippled >> even for the usage I plan. > > You should of course put those USE flags in /etc/portage/package.use > instead of setting them in the command-line, otherwise they won't be > remembered. > > B

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/02/2013 09:38 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Michael Orlitzky writes: > >> On 08/02/2013 08:22 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> >>> Now, is it reasonable to install that way? Will I run into some >>> horrible unsightly mess using git, when installed this way. >>> >> >> Without USE=perl, you'll get a

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 03/08/13 04:50, Harry Putnam wrote: [...] So, anyway, thinking I'll go with USE="-blksha1 -gpg -iconv -pcre -threads -webdav -cgi -cvs -doc -emacs -gnome-keyring -gtk -highlight -nls -ppcsha1 -subversion -test -tk -xinetd" emerge -v dev-vcs/git Unless I hear something that would indica

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Michael Orlitzky writes: > On 08/02/2013 08:22 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> >> Now, is it reasonable to install that way? Will I run into some >> horrible unsightly mess using git, when installed this way. >> > > Without USE=perl, you'll get a surprise if you try to `git add -i`. Well, I do hav

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Wang Xuerui writes: > 2013/8/3 Harry Putnam : >> Hehe, alright, now we're talking that reduced dependancies to just >> 1 lonesome cpio. >> >> Now, is it reasonable to install that way? Will I run into some >> horrible unsightly mess using git, when installed this way. > > IIRC you only have

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Stroller writes: > On 3 August 2013, at 04:03, Harry Putnam wrote: >> ... >> emerge -vp dev-vcs/git and come up with 194 pkgs that need to be >> installed. >> ... >> >> So I imagine I've done something thats causing that massive of a list >> of dependencies. >> >> I tried a few USE flags like

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-08-03 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 03:20:27PM +0200, pk wrote: > On 2013-08-03 14:28, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 08:34:11PM +0100, Steven J. Long wrote: > > > While I (and others BTW) was trying to provide an external POV with > > points to make outside contributions and rectruitemen

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Wang Xuerui
2013/8/3 Harry Putnam : > Hehe, alright, now we're talking that reduced dependancies to just > 1 lonesome cpio. > > Now, is it reasonable to install that way? Will I run into some > horrible unsightly mess using git, when installed this way. IIRC you only have to do USE="-perl" and most depen

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation for CPU type in QEMU?

2013-08-03 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:12:01 +0100 schrieb Kerin Millar : > On 31/07/2013 12:31, Marc Joliet wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > There's also "-cpu host", which simply passes your CPU through to the guest. > > That's what I use for my 32 bit WinXP VM. You can use it if you don't mind > > not > > being

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Fri, 02 Aug 2013 20:22:09 -0400 schrieb Harry Putnam : > Nikos Chantziaras writes: > > > On 03/08/13 06:03, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> No doubt suffering from overdose of pilot error here but on a new (in > >> progress) install of gentoo as guest in vbox. I ran the command > >> > >> emerge -vp

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/02/2013 08:22 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > Now, is it reasonable to install that way? Will I run into some > horrible unsightly mess using git, when installed this way. > Without USE=perl, you'll get a surprise if you try to `git add -i`.

Re: [gentoo-user] Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Stroller
On 3 August 2013, at 04:03, Harry Putnam wrote: > ... > emerge -vp dev-vcs/git and come up with 194 pkgs that need to be > installed. > ... > > So I imagine I've done something thats causing that massive of a list > of dependencies. > > I tried a few USE flags like -X and that did drop it down

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras writes: > On 03/08/13 06:03, Harry Putnam wrote: >> No doubt suffering from overdose of pilot error here but on a new (in >> progress) install of gentoo as guest in vbox. I ran the command >> >> emerge -vp dev-vcs/git and come up with 194 pkgs that need to be >> installed. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-08-03 Thread hasufell
On 08/03/2013 02:28 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > you guys @gentoo.org turned this thread into plain bullshits. > I have a lot of patience, but that does not help us and definitely not your case either. Please stop. People who are _really_ interested in contributing are welcome to contact me dir

[gentoo-user] Re: Where to find the straight dope conf.d/net?

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick writes: > On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:51:31 +0100, Mick wrote: > >> > Can someone point me to concise documentation about how this new setup >> > is supposed to work? >> >> In /etc/conf.d/net you should replace the previously named eth0 >> directives to your new NIC name, e.g. instead

[gentoo-user] Re: Where to find the straight dope conf.d/net?

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Mick writes: > On Saturday 03 Aug 2013 06:52:46 Harry Putnam wrote: >> I was off gentoo for a few mnths... apparently something has changed >> in the naming of the network devices. >> >> So far I've read several accounts of it... but the install handbook >> has apparently not been brought up to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-08-03 Thread pk
On 2013-08-03 14:28, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 08:34:11PM +0100, Steven J. Long wrote: > While I (and others BTW) was trying to provide an external POV with > points to make outside contributions and rectruitement more efficient, > you guys @gentoo.org turned this thread in

[gentoo-user] Re: Any .config for vbox gentoo guest

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
walt writes: > On 07/29/2013 06:29 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Can anyone post a .config for a 3.8.13 kernel that is known to work on >> a vbox install of gentoo as guest. >> >> Working on a fresh install but don't have gentoo running anywhere to >> rob a .config from. > > This one worked for me.

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-08-03 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 08:34:11PM +0100, Steven J. Long wrote: > Again you're wilfully misinterpreting what I've said, and answering a > completely different > point. You didn't know the basics of how to go about approaching Gentoo. > Stuff that > practically every user knows, or can find out *

Re: [gentoo-user] Where to find the straight dope conf.d/net?

2013-08-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:51:31 +0100, Mick wrote: > > Can someone point me to concise documentation about how this new setup > > is supposed to work? > > In /etc/conf.d/net you should replace the previously named eth0 > directives to your new NIC name, e.g. instead of: > > config_eth0="dhcp" >

Re: [gentoo-user] Where to find the straight dope conf.d/net?

2013-08-03 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 Aug 2013 06:52:46 Harry Putnam wrote: > I was off gentoo for a few mnths... apparently something has changed > in the naming of the network devices. > > So far I've read several accounts of it... but the install handbook > has apparently not been brought up to date. > > Doing a fre

Re: [gentoo-user] Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 23:03:13 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: > emerge -vp dev-vcs/git and come up with 194 pkgs that need to be > installed. emerge -tp dev-vcs/git should show you what it pulling in which packages, then you can tweak your USE flags. It is quite possible, even likely, that this is ca