Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-17 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 23:16 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > I have an ancient system which was quite the bee's knees in its day 8 years > ago, but is showing its age. > > I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the > disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or f

[gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-17 Thread felix
I have an ancient system which was quite the bee's knees in its day 8 years ago, but is showing its age. I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. I bought a USB 3.0 disk enclosure

Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash and constant errors.

2012-06-17 Thread Dale
David Haller wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, Dale wrote: >> `/usr/portage/distfiles/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz' saved > 11.2.202.235 crashes all the time anyway (at least on x86_64), there's > a new version 11.2.202.236 out since yesterday or so that works again. > > HTH, > -dnh

Re: [gentoo-user] Noisy dd operation

2012-06-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 19:27:36 -0400 > Michael Mol wrote: > >> So, I'm using dd to write the Gentoo LiveDVD ISO directly to an SDHC >> card. I was wondering why the transfer rate had slowed from 20MB/s to >> 6MB/s, so I ran 'sudo tail -f /var/

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jun 17, 2012 11:57 PM, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article > > from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop > > environments. > > > > http://www

Re: [gentoo-user] Noisy dd operation

2012-06-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 19:27:36 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: > So, I'm using dd to write the Gentoo LiveDVD ISO directly to an SDHC > card. I was wondering why the transfer rate had slowed from 20MB/s to > 6MB/s, so I ran 'sudo tail -f /var/log/messages' to see if there were > I/O errors slowing things

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to the gnome-system-monitor panel applet?

2012-06-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 6:17 PM, walt wrote: > (I considered posting this into the Linus-bashing-gnome3 thread, then > I decided against it :) > > There are tons of stuff in gnome(any version) that I don't need, but > for many years I've stuck with gnome for one, maybe silly, reason. > > The gnome

[gentoo-user] Noisy dd operation

2012-06-17 Thread Michael Mol
So, I'm using dd to write the Gentoo LiveDVD ISO directly to an SDHC card. I was wondering why the transfer rate had slowed from 20MB/s to 6MB/s, so I ran 'sudo tail -f /var/log/messages' to see if there were I/O errors slowing things down. What I found was a flood-stream of message blocks that lo

[gentoo-user] Alternatives to the gnome-system-monitor panel applet?

2012-06-17 Thread walt
(I considered posting this into the Linus-bashing-gnome3 thread, then I decided against it :) There are tons of stuff in gnome(any version) that I don't need, but for many years I've stuck with gnome for one, maybe silly, reason. The gnome-system-monitor applet displays graphs of processor use, m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 17. Juni 2012, 17:33:58 schrieb Michael Mol: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 17/06/12 22:36, Walter Dnes wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:52:48AM -0500, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote > >> > >>> In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you ac

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 18/06/12 00:33, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 17/06/12 22:36, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:52:48AM -0500, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You don't like GNOME?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 00:17:46 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >My attitude towards KDE and GNOME is "the pox on both their > > houses"; I don't run desktops, I run applications. > > It's just that most people prefer a unified look and feel, rather than > each application inventing the sam

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 17/06/12 22:36, Walter Dnes wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:52:48AM -0500, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote >> >>> In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You >>> don't like GNOME? Then don't use it; and if

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 17/06/12 22:36, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:52:48AM -0500, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You don't like GNOME? Then don't use it; and if you used it before and don't like the new version, either get involver to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread Alecks Gates
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 17/06/12 22:12, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Alecks Gates wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann >>> wrote: Am Freitag, 15. Juni 2012, 23:57:26 schrieb Pan

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 17/06/12 22:12, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Alecks Gates wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Freitag, 15. Juni 2012, 23:57:26 schrieb Pandu Poluan: Just in case anyone missed it: https://plus.google.com/10215069322513000

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:52:48AM -0500, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote > In my humble opinion, you should use whatever you actually like. You > don't like GNOME? Then don't use it; and if you used it before and > don't like the new version, either get involver to get it "fixed" (for > whatever defi

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article > from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop > environments. > > http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/whats-the-best-linux-de

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 17. Juni 2012, 11:52:48 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> > So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article >> > from TechRadar exploring the

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Alecks Gates wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: >> Am Freitag, 15. Juni 2012, 23:57:26 schrieb Pandu Poluan: >>> Just in case anyone missed it: >>> >>> https://plus.google.com/102150693225130002912/posts/UkoAaLDpF4I >>> >>> Rg

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Alecks Gates
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 17. Juni 2012, 11:52:48 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> > So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article >> > from TechRadar exploring the

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 17. Juni 2012, 11:52:48 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article > > from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop > > environments. > > > > ht

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Keith Dart
Re CAA2qdGUzjvpsZ6bB7oTHTKDo+HFC95Ma+PraEZOQzVtED5ESfw@mail.gmail.comcaa2qdguzjvpsz6bb7othtkdo+hfc95ma+praezoqzvted5e...@mail.gmail.com, Canek Peláez Valdés said: > Really, use whatever floats your boat. And if you don't like a > particular software (or developer, or design), then simply don't use

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread Alecks Gates
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Freitag, 15. Juni 2012, 23:57:26 schrieb Pandu Poluan: >> Just in case anyone missed it: >> >> https://plus.google.com/102150693225130002912/posts/UkoAaLDpF4I >> >> Rgds, > > reeading that and this thread: > > as a kde user it is re

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article > from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop > environments. > > http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/whats-the-best-linux-de

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jun 17, 2012 4:42 PM, "Pandu Poluan" wrote: > > So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop environments. > > http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/whats-the-best-linux-desktop-en

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 12:31 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Freitag, 15. Juni 2012, 23:57:26 schrieb Pandu Poluan: > > Just in case anyone missed it: > > > > https://plus.google.com/102150693225130002912/posts/UkoAaLDpF4I > > > > Rgds, > > reeading that and this thread: > > as a kde use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 20:24 +1000, Paul Colquhoun wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 18:03:36 William Kenworthy wrote: > > > The weather extension I am using is very inaccurate - if it says rain, > > it could have at some point a few daya ago ... or in the future ... hard > > to tell (for Western Austra

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag, 15. Juni 2012, 23:57:26 schrieb Pandu Poluan: > Just in case anyone missed it: > > https://plus.google.com/102150693225130002912/posts/UkoAaLDpF4I > > Rgds, reeading that and this thread: as a kde user it is refreshing to see that gnome3 is worse than KDE 4.0 I hope all those arrog

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread Paul Colquhoun
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 18:03:36 William Kenworthy wrote: > The weather extension I am using is very inaccurate - if it says rain, > it could have at some point a few daya ago ... or in the future ... hard > to tell (for Western Australia). There is no weather map/radar map. At Here is a weather ra

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 04:00 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 2:22 PM, walt wrote: > > On 06/16/2012 12:01 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> BTW, using GNOME 3 for more than one year in my laptop and desktop, > >> and I love it. I also want a tablet with it. > > > > Are

[gentoo-user] OT: 'Best' Desktop Environment

2012-06-17 Thread Pandu Poluan
So, while we're meta-discussing Linus' rant on Gnome3, here's an article from TechRadar exploring the usability of the leading Linux desktop environments. http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/whats-the-best-linux-desktop-environment-1045280 Summary: Try the latest KDE. You mi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 03:13:50 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Samstag, 16. Juni 2012, 19:06:30 schrieb Michael Mol: > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > > > wrote: > > > Am Samstag, 16. Juni 2012, 23:12:48 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > > >> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 00:00:04

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 2:22 PM, walt wrote: > On 06/16/2012 12:01 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> BTW, using GNOME 3 for more than one year in my laptop and desktop, >> and I love it. I also want a tablet with it. > > Are you using any of the extensions Linus was discussing? I'm using the "Rem