Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

>>> I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is there a >>> safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has never worked for >>> me.  When does that ever work? >> >> >> Oh crap, you said "remote system".  Somehow I missed that.  Ignore my >> previous post since obviously acce

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:32:33 + (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 25/02/12 16:48, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >>> On 24/02/12 17:35, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2012-02-24, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 02:50:46 +0700 Pandu Poluan wrote: > So, as you can see, binary distros can still fuck up royal time. Not > to mention that if you have an exotic configuration, support for your > configuration might not be built into the kernel by the distro. > > Somehow I believe people dep

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:03:47 -0600 John wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I've been using linux for about 12 years now, but only used DE's. > I've got ADD in the extreme and have poor memory retention so trying > to learn things 'UNIX' (command line and such) is just too difficult > for me. I can do s

Re: [gentoo-user] "Invalid boot diskette" what do I do?

>> [snip] >> >> I'm amazed but disconnecting and reconnecting the IDE and power cable >> fixed it.  Which is your favorite tool for testing a HD's integrity >> with and without S.M.A.R.T. support? > > [I] gnome-extra/gsmartcontrol [1] >     Available versions:  (~)0.8.6 {debug} >     Installed vers

[gentoo-user] [OT] USB <=> SCSII adaptor ?

Hi, is there any USB to SCSII adaptor known, which works with Linux ? Thank you very much for any help in advance! Best regards, mcc

[gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 25/02/12 16:48, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 24/02/12 17:35, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-02-24, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 24/02/12 07:02, pk wrote: >> On 2012-02-24 05:15, Nikos Chantziaras

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole + zsh ctrl-c does not work anymore as expected

Am Samstag, 25. Februar 2012, 21:08:50 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:54:06 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > since upgrading zsh to 4.3.17 I have a problem with Konsole 4.8.0. > > > > ctrl-c does not quit a running program. It ends su -/sux - sessions. > > > > log in as use

[gentoo-user] Re: dog - man's best friend.

Paul Hartman writes: [...] >>> (c) use less -F and less will automatically exit if the entire file can fit >>> on one screen.  One can export LESS='-F' to have less always do the above. >> >> Maybe I'm seeing behavior that is not supposed to happen, but if I say >> echo '## ONE LINE' > test >> >

[gentoo-user] Re: dog - man's best friend.

Willie WY Wong writes: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 06:24:29PM -0500, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam squawked: >> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 08:42:00PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> > >> >> (a) using less, and have it take just 10 screen lines; (b) using cat etc., >> >> and have the interesting part

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole + zsh ctrl-c does not work anymore as expected

On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:54:06 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > since upgrading zsh to 4.3.17 I have a problem with Konsole 4.8.0. > > ctrl-c does not quit a running program. It ends su -/sux - sessions. > > log in as user > start konsole > su - > ping www.google.com > hit ctrl-c > su-session

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

V Sun, 26 Feb 2012 02:50:46 +0700 Pandu Poluan napsáno: > On Feb 26, 2012 2:05 AM, "Robert David" > wrote: > > > > V Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:32:20 -0800 > > Grant napsáno: > > > > > >> >> I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. > > > >> >> Is there a safe way to do this? The fall

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:30:21PM +1100, Adam Carter wrote > Playing video is one of few situations in which optimisation makes a > lot of difference though, thanks to the mmx/sse stuff, which is post > i686. So a video benchmark will should show that up, but the boost may > be lost in a more gen

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

On Feb 26, 2012 2:05 AM, "Robert David" wrote: > > V Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:32:20 -0800 > Grant napsáno: > > > >> >> I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is > > >> >> there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has > > >> >> never worked for me. When does that eve

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

>> >> >> I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is >> >> >> there a safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has >> >> >> never worked for me.  When does that ever work? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will take you to >> >> > text-onl

Re: [gentoo-user] favorite smartctl test?

>> I'm trying to figure out how far gone an old Maxtor HD of mine is.  It >> does have S.M.A.R.T. support.  Is there a favorite smartctl command >> for making this determination?  'smartctl -a /dev/sda' says: >> >> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED >> >> and: >> >> ATA Error

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

V Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:32:20 -0800 Grant napsáno: > >> >> I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is > >> >> there a safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has > >> >> never worked for me.  When does that ever work? > >> > > >> > > >> > You can press ESC in the Grub sc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

>> I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is there a >> safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has never worked for >> me.  When does that ever work? > > You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will take you to text-only >>> >>> mode. >>> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

>> > >> I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is there a >> > >> safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has never worked for >> > >> me.  When does that ever work? >> > > >> > > You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will take you to text-only >> >> mode. >> >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

>> >> I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is >> >> there a safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has never >> >> worked for me.  When does that ever work? >> > >> > >> > You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will take you to >> > text-only mode. There, you se

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

>> I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is there a >> safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has never worked for >> me.  When does that ever work? > > > Oh crap, you said "remote system".  Somehow I missed that.  Ignore my > previous post since obviously accessing G

[gentoo-user] Konsole + zsh ctrl-c does not work anymore as expected

Hello everybody, since upgrading zsh to 4.3.17 I have a problem with Konsole 4.8.0. ctrl-c does not quit a running program. It ends su -/sux - sessions. log in as user start konsole su - ping www.google.com hit ctrl-c su-session quit. user again, ping still running. Before I open a bug, has any

[gentoo-user] Re: How to read fan speed of my graphics card?

On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 09:05:30 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Yohan Pereira [12-02-25 08:48]: > > On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 07:27:35 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > to supervise the speed of the two fans of my Nvidia GTX 560 Ti > > > (made by MSI) graphics card I need a way to r

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:56:27 +0800 William Kenworthy > articulated: > On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 05:34 -0600, Dale wrote: > > Carlos Sura wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 24 February 2012 22:04, John > > > wrote: > > > > > > On

[gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo for me?

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:03:47 -0600 John wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I've been using linux for about 12 years now, but only used DE's. > I've got ADD in the extreme and have poor memory retention so trying > to learn things 'UNIX' (command line and such) is just too difficult > for me. I can do s

[gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

On 25/02/12 16:48, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 24/02/12 17:35, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-02-24, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 24/02/12 07:02, pk wrote: On 2012-02-24 05:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: user can watch. Flash on the other hand guarantees we

[gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

On 25/02/12 16:04, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hello, Nikos. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 04:10:10AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 25/02/12 04:00, Grant wrote: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

> I know I may be in the minority here but flash is coming no where near > my computers, nor the ones I support (my mother etc.). I offer no solution to what about to do in 5 years when there's no more flash support on linux. But I'd like to take this opportunity to say: _I hope flash dies painfu

[gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 24/02/12 17:35, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2012-02-24, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 24/02/12 07:02, pk wrote: On 2012-02-24 05:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > user can watch. Flash on the other hand guarantees web designers that a >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 25/02/12 13:43, Dale wrote: >> Walter Dnes wrote: >>>In that case, the benchmarks are useless. From my personal >>> experience... a fresh i686 install on a 4 and 1/2 year old Dell with >>> onboard Intel GPU was not able to keep up with the slowest available >>> s

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:33:26 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > > Portage has done parallel downloads for years, it no longer waits for > > one package to finish installing before starting to download the > > next. It's controlled by FEATURES="parallel-fetch". > A new one on me ... tkx, added it t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

Hello, Nikos. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 04:10:10AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 25/02/12 04:00, Grant wrote: > > I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a > > safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for > > me. When does that ever work?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

On Feb 25, 2012 7:22 PM, "Mick" wrote: > > On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 02:32:49 Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Feb 25, 2012 9:14 AM, "Grant" wrote: > > > >> I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a > > > >> safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

On 25/02/12 13:43, Dale wrote: Walter Dnes wrote: In that case, the benchmarks are useless. From my personal experience... a fresh i686 install on a 4 and 1/2 year old Dell with onboard Intel GPU was not able to keep up with the slowest available speed on NHL Gamecenter Live. Ditto for 108

[gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

(Hmm, GMane acting up again. Sorry if this shows up twice; I've sent this yesterday.) On 25/02/12 04:00, Grant wrote: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me. When does that ever work? Oh c

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:56:27 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > >> Use "emerge -f package_list" to download into the distfiles directory >> files well ahead of when the "emerge package_list" will need them ... >> there is no need to waste time waiting for compilation to finis

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:03:47 -0600 John wrote: > > Hi folks, > ... > that)? Is there a 'repository' of apps anywhere that I > can go to to look and see if the app I normally use for > something is there? > ... http://packages.gentoo.org Urs

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

Am Freitag, 24. Februar 2012, 21:03:47 schrieb John: > Hi folks, > > I've been using linux for about 12 years now, but only used DE's. no problem. > I've got > ADD in the extreme and have poor memory retention so trying to learn things > 'UNIX' (command line and such) is just too difficult

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Dale wrote: > Grant wrote: > >>> I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a > >>> safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for > >>> me. When does that ever work? > >> > >> > >> You can press ESC in the Grub sc

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 05:34:25AM -0600, Dale wrote: > > There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good > > American. The only man who > > is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else. > > -Theodore Roosevelt, > > 1915 Reminds me of the ne

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 12:16 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:56:27 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > > > Use "emerge -f package_list" to download into the distfiles directory > > files well ahead of when the "emerge package_list" will need them ... > > there is no need to waste

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

On Sat 25 Feb 2012 05:48:49 PM IST, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 02:32:49 Pandu Poluan wrote: >> On Feb 25, 2012 9:14 AM, "Grant" wrote: > I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a > safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 02:32:49 Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Feb 25, 2012 9:14 AM, "Grant" wrote: > > >> I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a > > >> safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for > > >> me. When does that ever work? > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:56:27 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > Use "emerge -f package_list" to download into the distfiles directory > files well ahead of when the "emerge package_list" will need them ... > there is no need to waste time waiting for compilation to finish and > letting the bandwidt

Re: [gentoo-user] [Solved] Linux Kernel 3.2.0 & USB Mouse

Finally it is working by enabling some HID_RAW parameter in the kernel config L: On 2012. február 22. 19:19:55, Michael Mol wrote: > 2012/2/22 Space Cake : >> Today I've tried to upgrade from 3.1.6 to 3.2.1. I did not change >> anything else only the options mentioned below >> >>> Device Driver

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 05:34 -0600, Dale wrote: > Carlos Sura wrote: > > > > > > On 24 February 2012 22:04, John > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 24, 2012 21:12 Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > On Feb 25, 2012 10:06 AM, "John" > > w

Re: [gentoo-user] fstab entries for /proc and tmpfs

> just building a new qemu appliance and following the handbook it > mentions the /proc an tmpfs file systems in fstab, but the stage > template no longer has these entries - is the handbook out of date and > openrc handles it? - or did I accidentally delete them? Do I still need > those entries .

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 03:13:07AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote > >> The speed gains of building for specific submodels of CPUs might >> be there, but they're minimal. Benchmarks have shown (can't find >> the article, it was on Phoronix) that after -march=i686 you get >> di

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness

Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Feb 25, 2012 9:16 AM, "Dale" > wrote: >> > >8snip > >> >> >> That is true BUT the docs are for 100% certainty. Well, 99% at least. >> They almost always have the safest way to do anything but not >> necessarily the most used way. Ther

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

Carlos Sura wrote: > > > On 24 February 2012 22:04, John > wrote: > > On Friday, February 24, 2012 21:12 Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Feb 25, 2012 10:06 AM, "John" > wrote: > > > > > > > Have a look at Sabayon. It's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 03:13:07AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote > >> The speed gains of building for specific submodels of CPUs might >> be there, but they're minimal.  Benchmarks have shown (can't find >> the article, it was on Phoronix) tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

V Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:08:43 -0800 Grant napsáno: > >> I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is > >> there a safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has never > >> worked for me.  When does that ever work? > > > > > > You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will t

[gentoo-user] fstab entries for /proc and tmpfs

just building a new qemu appliance and following the handbook it mentions the /proc an tmpfs file systems in fstab, but the stage template no longer has these entries - is the handbook out of date and openrc handles it? - or did I accidentally delete them? Do I still need those entries ... that wi

Re: [gentoo-user] How to read fan speed of my graphics card?

Yohan Pereira [12-02-25 08:48]: > On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 07:27:35 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > to supervise the speed of the two fans of my Nvidia GTX 560 Ti (made > > by MSI) graphics card I need a way to read it in userland. > > > > I tried lm_sensors for this but without any su