On 7/22/2011 9:53 PM, CJoeB wrote:
Because this will be a new computer and I may essentially void the
warranty if I alter the pre-configuration, I seriously thought about
leaving the status quo and putting up with Windows 7. However, I would
lose practically as much as losing my first born! I
Albert Hopkins wrote:
On Friday, July 22 at 18:42 (-0500), Dale said:
I sort of hate to hear there are no major changes. I was hoping for
a
fix on my kernel panic problem. Oh well. I'll upgrade anyway.
Maybe
it will help.
Fixing a kernel bug is not considered a "major change". A
As part of Project:Protogenoi [1], I am planning to replace root with
a united filesystem using aufs. The layers will be:
Top: /dev/xvda3 (Xen/XenServer Virtual Disk device)
Bottom: /.root.sqfs
The aim would be to generate the smallest .xva (XenServer Virtual
Appliance) possible. To achieve this,
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:53 PM, CJoeB wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> First, thanks for all the input regarding CFLAGS.
>
> Can I be honest here? My technical skills don't seem to be anywhere
> near on a par with most of the people on this list. I've been using
> Gentoo since 2004 and the reason I do
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 22:39 -0400, Jeff Cranmer wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 10:18 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 22:00 -0400, Jeff Cranmer wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I recently ran an emerge -NDuav on my system and world lists, and now I
> > > can't start X and
On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 10:18 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 22:00 -0400, Jeff Cranmer wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I recently ran an emerge -NDuav on my system and world lists, and now I
> > can't start X and keep the keyboard or mouse operating.
> >
> > Is this a known issu
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 21:53 -0400, CJoeB wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> First, thanks for all the input regarding CFLAGS.
>
> Can I be honest here? My technical skills don't seem to be anywhere
> near on a par with most of the people on this list. I've been using
> Gentoo since 2004 and the reason I
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 22:00 -0400, Jeff Cranmer wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I recently ran an emerge -NDuav on my system and world lists, and now I
> can't start X and keep the keyboard or mouse operating.
>
> Is this a known issue? Any simple fixes?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
Did you fo
On Friday, July 22 at 18:42 (-0500), Dale said:
> I sort of hate to hear there are no major changes. I was hoping for
> a
> fix on my kernel panic problem. Oh well. I'll upgrade anyway.
> Maybe
> it will help.
Fixing a kernel bug is not considered a "major change". A major change
would be
Hi All,
I recently ran an emerge -NDuav on my system and world lists, and now I
can't start X and keep the keyboard or mouse operating.
Is this a known issue? Any simple fixes?
Thanks in advance
Jeff
Is there anyone who can help me recover my raid array?
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 20:43 -0400, Jeff Cranmer wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 09:06 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> > On 07/18/2011 11:08 PM, Jeff Cranmer wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Pardon my additional questions before taking the plunge her
Hi everyone,
First, thanks for all the input regarding CFLAGS.
Can I be honest here? My technical skills don't seem to be anywhere
near on a par with most of the people on this list. I've been using
Gentoo since 2004 and the reason I do, is for the control that I have
over my system.
Because t
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 07/23/2011 01:54 AM, Dale wrote:
Howdy,
I noticed the new kernel in the tree. Anybody know whether make
oldconfig will work when coming from a 2.6.39 series kernel? Since I'm
having issues right now, I wouldn't mind trying to new and improved,
hopefully, version.
I
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Dale wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> I noticed the new kernel in the tree. Anybody know whether make oldconfig
> will work when coming from a 2.6.39 series kernel? Since I'm having issues
> right now, I wouldn't mind trying to new and improved, hopefully, version.
>
> I just
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Am 23.07.2011 00:54, schrieb Dale:
Howdy,
I noticed the new kernel in the tree. Anybody know whether make
oldconfig will work when coming from a 2.6.39 series kernel? Since I'm
having issues right now, I wouldn't mind trying to new and improved,
hopefully, vers
On 07/23/2011 01:54 AM, Dale wrote:
Howdy,
I noticed the new kernel in the tree. Anybody know whether make
oldconfig will work when coming from a 2.6.39 series kernel? Since I'm
having issues right now, I wouldn't mind trying to new and improved,
hopefully, version.
I just had a thought, what a
On 22 July 2011 15:54, Dale wrote:
> I noticed the new kernel in the tree. Anybody know whether make oldconfig
> will work when coming from a 2.6.39 series kernel? Since I'm having issues
> right now, I wouldn't mind trying to new and improved, hopefully, version.
Despite the major version chan
Am 23.07.2011 00:54, schrieb Dale:
> Howdy,
>
> I noticed the new kernel in the tree. Anybody know whether make
> oldconfig will work when coming from a 2.6.39 series kernel? Since I'm
> having issues right now, I wouldn't mind trying to new and improved,
> hopefully, version.
>
> I just had a
Howdy,
I noticed the new kernel in the tree. Anybody know whether make
oldconfig will work when coming from a 2.6.39 series kernel? Since I'm
having issues right now, I wouldn't mind trying to new and improved,
hopefully, version.
I just had a thought, what are the odds the nvidia drivers
On 07/22/2011 11:13 AM, Grant wrote:
> Wouldn't a sufficiently large swap (100GB for example) completely
> prevent out of memory conditions and the oom-killer?
There's always someone who can pull a corner case out of his hat :)
I can't remember the details now, but there was a piece of code in
t
On Friday, July 22 at 11:13 (-0700), Grant said:
> That all makes perfect sense. So the reason a swap larger than maybe
> 1GB is not usually implemented is because idle processes don't
> normally have more than a few hundred MB of pages in memory?
>
That's not entirely true, either. For examp
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Jarry wrote:
> Hi,
> I would like to offer to some friends similar service
> as i.e. dyndns.org does: FQDN for their dynamic IP.
> But I have no idea how to set-up my bind for this task.
> And what is even worse, they are mostly running Windows.
>
> IIRC, dyndns.or
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Grant wrote:
>> ...
Then why not have a really big swap file? If swap is useful as a
second layer of caching behind RAM, why doesn't everyone with some
extra hard drive space have a 100GB swap file?
>>>
>>> I have 12GB of RAM and 12GB of swap on my
Hi,
I would like to offer to some friends similar service
as i.e. dyndns.org does: FQDN for their dynamic IP.
But I have no idea how to set-up my bind for this task.
And what is even worse, they are mostly running Windows.
IIRC, dyndns.org (and similar services) offer some
kind of end-user applic
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Friday 22 July 2011 19:13:35 Grant wrote:
Wouldn't a sufficiently large swap (100GB for example) completely prevent
out of memory conditions and the oom-killer?
Of course, on any system with more than a few dozen MB of RAM, but I can't
imagine any combination
On Friday 22 July 2011 18:41:26 Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> Am 22.07.2011 16:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> > It may look like KDE is the likely culprit based on just the
> > information you provide, but I would be more inclined to look at
> > browser plugins first, concentrating on those with both Fir
On Friday, July 22 at 19:55 (+0100), Peter Humphrey said:
> > Wouldn't a sufficiently large swap (100GB for example) completely
> prevent
> > out of memory conditions and the oom-killer?
>
> Of course, on any system with more than a few dozen MB of RAM, but I
> can't
> imagine any combination
On Friday, July 22 at 11:46 (-0700), Grant said:
> That's what I'm curious about. If some swap is good, why isn't more
> better? Paul has demonstrated that a Linux system will put at least
> 10GB to use and probably much more given the opportunity. Disk space
> is so cheap, why isn't everyone
On Friday 22 July 2011 19:46:25 Grant wrote:
> That's what I'm curious about. If some swap is good, why isn't more
> better? Paul has demonstrated that a Linux system will put at least
> 10GB to use and probably much more given the opportunity. Disk space
> is so cheap, why isn't everyone runni
Grant wrote:
...
To confuse you even more, there is a swappiness setting as well. On my old
x86 rig, I have 2Gbs of ram. My hard drive is really slow since it is IDE.
I set swappiness to 20. That tells the kernel that I have swap space but
don't use it unless you must. For what I use t
On Friday 22 July 2011 19:13:35 Grant wrote:
> Wouldn't a sufficiently large swap (100GB for example) completely prevent
> out of memory conditions and the oom-killer?
Of course, on any system with more than a few dozen MB of RAM, but I can't
imagine any combination of running programs whose siz
> ...
>>> Then why not have a really big swap file? If swap is useful as a
>>> second layer of caching behind RAM, why doesn't everyone with some
>>> extra hard drive space have a 100GB swap file?
>>
>> I have 12GB of RAM and 12GB of swap on my main PC. Why? Because... why
>> not? :) After 5 days
...
>> Then why not have a really big swap file? If swap is useful as a
>> second layer of caching behind RAM, why doesn't everyone with some
>> extra hard drive space have a 100GB swap file?
>
> I have 12GB of RAM and 12GB of swap on my main PC. Why? Because... why
> not? :) After 5 days uptime,
On Friday 22 Jul 2011 17:18:40 Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> Am 22.07.2011 17:05, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
> > and you strace'd firefox, X or chromium to see where this stuff hangs,
> > did you?
>
> No I did not, a strace is only as good as the person who can read it,
> and in my case is that not
...
> To confuse you even more, there is a swappiness setting as well. On my old
> x86 rig, I have 2Gbs of ram. My hard drive is really slow since it is IDE.
> I set swappiness to 20. That tells the kernel that I have swap space but
> don't use it unless you must. For what I use the rig for, 2
>> >> Then why not have a really big swap file? If swap is useful as a
>> >> second layer of caching behind RAM, why doesn't everyone with some
>> >> extra hard drive space have a 100GB swap file?
>> >>
>> > You've not understood what I said, I think. Swap is not useful as
>> > filesystem cache.
>> Assuming you have the concept right, if I have 'MaxClients 50' and
>> 'MaxSpareServers 10', there should never be more than 60 apache2
>> processes running and I should be able to serve up to 50 simultaneous
>> TCP sessions?
>
> I'd guess it wouldnt go past 50.
>
>> Can anyone explain why I have
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:54:09AM -0500, Dale wrote:
Just picking a post to reply here and it may have a good point. I
was browsing around to see what software I had for my UPS. I
thought I would download the thing, untar it and just check out the
README file to s
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:54:09AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Just picking a post to reply here and it may have a good point. I
> was browsing around to see what software I had for my UPS. I
> thought I would download the thing, untar it and just check out the
> README file to see what would be involv
Am 22.07.2011 16:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> It may look like KDE is the likely culprit based on just the
> information you provide, but I would be more inclined to look at
> browser plugins first, concentrating on those with both Firefox and
> Chromium versions from the same developer team.
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:39:49AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> Spelunking in /etc/rc.conf, I found the rc_parallel setting,
> accompanied with a quite significant WARNING.
>
> Have anyone experienced any trouble setting rc_parallel to "YES"?
I did. I have a net configuration with some VLAN. Each
Am 22.07.2011 17:05, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
> and you strace'd firefox, X or chromium to see where this stuff hangs, did
> you?
No I did not, a strace is only as good as the person who can read it,
and in my case is that not much, not because I'm too stupid but because
I rather let my dri
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
The 21/07/11, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
The 21/07/11, Dale wrote:
I have not been able to get the nv drivers to work. It has been so
long since I had to use them, it appears I have forgot how to use
them. I'm not sure I have ever used them since I been using G
On Thursday 21 July 2011 21:08:49 Albert Hopkins did opine thusly:
> > "When a linux machine hits swap, it does so very aggressively,
> > there is nothing nice about it at all. The entire machine slows
> > to a painstaking crawl for easily a minute at a time while the
> > kernel writes pages out to
On Thursday 21 July 2011 17:26:33 kashani did opine thusly:
> On 7/21/2011 4:53 PM, Grant wrote:
> > So swap isn't treated exactly like RAM. It actually has special
> > handling in Linux which makes it beneficial to have on almost
> > any
> > Linux system? According to Alan, things get very bad w
On Friday 22 July 2011 16:39:41 Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> Am 22.07.2011 15:13, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
> > maybe it is not KDE's fault when firefox is badly coded?
>
> Lets think.
> KDE4+Firefox = X hangs and firefox can't be killed
> XFCE4+Firefox = no problems
>
> Sure, it has to be firef
On Friday 22 July 2011 16:39:41 Sebastian Beßler did opine thusly:
> Am 22.07.2011 15:13, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
> > maybe it is not KDE's fault when firefox is badly coded?
>
> Lets think.
> KDE4+Firefox = X hangs and firefox can't be killed
> XFCE4+Firefox = no problems
>
> Sure, it has
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Grant wrote:
>>> Its more how much i/o rather than the size. If you have a bunch of
>>> stuff swapped out, but it hardly ever needs to be swapped in, the
>>> impact will be low.
>>>
>>> Keep an eye on the use with vmstat;
>>>
>>> adam@rix ~ $ vmstat 5
>>> procs ---
Am 22.07.2011 15:13, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
> maybe it is not KDE's fault when firefox is badly coded?
Lets think.
KDE4+Firefox = X hangs and firefox can't be killed
XFCE4+Firefox = no problems
Sure, it has to be firefox
Oh and a test 20 minutes ago showed
KDE4+Chromium = X hangs and ch
On Thursday 21 July 2011 19:38:53 Mick wrote:
> Whatever Dale had on his machine must have infected mine! LOL!
>
> A 32bit x86 box with KDE4.6, running firefox-3.6.17 and xulrunner-1.9.2.17
> after a few hours and loads of tabs (sometimes up to 15 or so) eventually
> hangs X.
>
> I can switch to
On Friday 22 July 2011 13:54:09 Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> Am 21.07.2011 20:38, schrieb Mick:
> > Whatever Dale had on his machine must have infected mine! LOL!
> >
> > A 32bit x86 box with KDE4.6, running firefox-3.6.17 and
> > xulrunner-1.9.2.17 after a few hours and loads of tabs (sometimes up
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:16:41 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote:
> Think of it this way: You have a house with an attic. Now the attic is
> not as "efficient" as say, the middle of your living room. You have a
> Christmas tree, but you only use that Christmas tree maybe once a year.
> Now it's much mor
Am 21.07.2011 20:38, schrieb Mick:
> Whatever Dale had on his machine must have infected mine! LOL!
>
> A 32bit x86 box with KDE4.6, running firefox-3.6.17 and xulrunner-1.9.2.17
> after a few hours and loads of tabs (sometimes up to 15 or so) eventually
> hangs X.
I had the same problem with
On Thursday 21 July 2011 21:44:51 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Sounds like a case for a swap partition that can be activated when you
> need it for big emerges. I hit the same thing with firefox-5 oddly
> enough.
I have one smallish swap partition at PRI=10 and a bigger one at PRI=1.
> As for OOo, lon
The 21/07/11, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> The 21/07/11, Dale wrote:
>
> > I have not been able to get the nv drivers to work. It has been so
> > long since I had to use them, it appears I have forgot how to use
> > them. I'm not sure I have ever used them since I been using Gentoo.
>
> Try VESA.
The 21/07/11, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:14:11 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
> > > It's the standard video driver, x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa
>
> > And I change nvidia to vesa or do I need to unmerge nvidia first?
>
> If you keep xorg.conf, change it to use vesa.
Or move it to /r
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