Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Graham Murray
"Walter Dnes" writes: > - I run Firefox > - I go to live365.com and log in > - I click on an icon, and Firefox starts up an audio player, and passes > it the appropriate URL. > - I start reading/writing emails, whilst enjoying music in my headphones > > The audio player needs to communicate w

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 02:37:53PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote You have been corrected on this point so many times I now think you are just a stupid ass. It is not slow. You are the only one saying that. People who do use N

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 21:23:41 pk wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser > > or mail app that they are offline? > > I don't have a network connection manager and I don't need that function > in a browser, mail client o

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 February 2010 00:52:32 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:21:18 -0800, Kyle Bader wrote: > > >> Has anybody any other tips to offer me for this operation? > > > > > > tar up /etc. > > > > Make sure the tar can extract on another system. Backups that haven't > > been tes

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 21:55:29 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Gentoo! > > As reported in other threads, my new PC had a broken RAM stick in it. > As a result, an unknown proportion of installed binaries are flaky. One > non-functioning binary is probably GCC. > > What I'd like to do is reinsta

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Walter Dnes
Sorry about the delay replying. I'm having major problems upgrading to kernel 2.6.31-r6. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 04:53:08PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:31:21 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > XMMS followed > > the original Unix philosophy... it did one thing did it right, n

Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 02:37:53PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > You have been corrected on this point so many times I now think you > are just a stupid ass. > > It is not slow. > > You are the only one saying that. People who do use Nepomuk say that > it is not slow and does not hog resources (i

Re: [gentoo-user] Two problems with xdg-open

2010-02-12 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:23 -0500, Willie Wong wrote: > Hi list: > > What exactly is xdg-open and how to I configure it to do what I want? > > The question came up because I am using jabref, a Java based bibtex > management system. On my home machine, when I tried to open a PDF > file, java throw

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: in-memory database -> SOLVED

2010-02-12 Thread Hung Dang
Hi all, Thank a lot for your advices. I will try both mysql and sqlite to see which one is better for our purpose. Have a nice weekend, Hung On 02/12/10 10:56, Doug O'Neal wrote: > On 02/11/2010 12:27 PM, Hung Dang wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am looking for an open source in-memory database for da

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 13 Februar 2010, walt wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Maybe increasing voltages a bit (0.05 to 0.1V) will help you. It did for > > me with one certain Asrock board. > > This is the first I've heard of adjustable voltages. Where/how do you make > the adjustment? Bios

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Maybe increasing voltages a bit (0.05 to 0.1V) will help you. It did for me with one certain Asrock board. This is the first I've heard of adjustable voltages. Where/how do you make the ad

[gentoo-user] Re: New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread walt
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Maybe increasing voltages a bit (0.05 to 0.1V) will help you. It did for me > with one certain Asrock board. This is the first I've heard of adjustable voltages. Where/how do you make the adjustment?

[gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread walt
Zeerak Waseem wrote: > I just started a degree, to accomplish -something akin to- that ;-) Ah, good. Let me give you some free advice, well in advance. When it comes time to pick people for your thesis committee -- pick ones who love to argue. I think it may save you some pain later.

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 09:15:59PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > as browser - or file manager. And to load the right kpart. Oh - and that > > > loading of kparts? The messages are sent by dbus. > > > > I don't have konqueror nor do I use KDE/Gnome. And never will. > then why do you eve

[gentoo-user] Two problems with xdg-open

2010-02-12 Thread Willie Wong
Hi list: What exactly is xdg-open and how to I configure it to do what I want? The question came up because I am using jabref, a Java based bibtex management system. On my home machine, when I tried to open a PDF file, java throws a file-not-found error on "xdg-open". But I have xdg-utils install

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread William Kenworthy
"equery check package" compares current with the as installed checksum (or something like that!) for the packages files. emerge -ep world > a edit "a" to add "equery check " before each package name run "sh a > b" and got hrough the list in b to see whats broke - lots of debris - config files etc

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86. Got it!

2010-02-12 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: Hi, Dale, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 08:27:01AM -0600, Dale wrote: Where the error is could depend on a single transistor that is maybe not as sensitive as the others. It's sort of like a chain. It's only as strong as its we

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Zeerak Waseem
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:51:01 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:01:22 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:23:41 +0100, pk wrote: > To me D-Bus is a bit like this: > Programmer1: (waves hands in the air) Oh, oh I know, let's invent a new > protocol that lets applications talk to each other. Way cool! Note that they are inventing a new protocol, not a new idea. > Programmer2: Oh

Re: [gentoo-user] Cron, bash, and java interacting badly?

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:57:09 -0500, Walt Rarus wrote: > BTW, I love the quotations following your sig. Speaking of "source", > are you willing to reveal the source of these beauties? Yes, it's a place called "the Internet" ;-) -- Neil Bothwick CPU: (n.) acronym for Central Purging Unit. A dev

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:21:18 -0800, Kyle Bader wrote: > >> Has anybody any other tips to offer me for this operation? > > > > tar up /etc. > > Make sure the tar can extract on another system. Backups that haven't > been tested are not backups! :D /etc/ is CONFIG_PROTECTed, so emerge -e worl

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > well, just look at all those ubuntu users. Just for starters. > > Hm. And those ubuntu users have a choice? For the record, most people > using wireless anywhere are using OS's from Redmond or Cupertino > (Apple). They don't c

Re: [gentoo-user] Cron, bash, and java interacting badly?

2010-02-12 Thread Walt Rarus
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > "source /etc/profile" at the top of the script often works. > @Neil: Well, that does the trick! But I don't understand why. In my initial post I withheld information in order to be sure the focus wouldn't be on the Clojure program itse

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread pk
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > well, just look at all those ubuntu users. Just for starters. Hm. And those ubuntu users have a choice? For the record, most people using wireless anywhere are using OS's from Redmond or Cupertino (Apple). They don't care about D-Bus either... > yes, it has. There i

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Kyle Bader
>> Has anybody any other tips to offer me for this operation? > > tar up /etc. Make sure the tar can extract on another system. Backups that haven't been tested are not backups! :D -- Kyle

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > besides being not really usefull anymore? Are you sure you have lpr? > > Which ones do you have? And do you have it configured for the right > > printers? What if you don't have lpr but cups? > > Of course I use cups, don't be

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > You obviously don't know what you are talking about. > > And you obviously do? > > > If you start konqueror - for example, it is dbus telling konqueror to > > start > > > > as browser - or file manager. And to load the rig

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread pk
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > besides being not really usefull anymore? Are you sure you have lpr? Which > ones do you have? And do you have it configured for the right printers? What > if > you don't have lpr but cups? Of course I use cups, don't be silly. Of course built without D-Bus suppor

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread pk
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > You obviously don't know what you are talking about. And you obviously do? > If you start konqueror - for example, it is dbus telling konqueror to start > as browser - or file manager. And to load the right kpart. Oh - and that > loading of kparts? The messages a

[gentoo-user] Re: Ramifications of memtest86. Got it!

2010-02-12 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/12/2010 09:25 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Dale, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 08:27:01AM -0600, Dale wrote: Where the error is could depend on a single transistor that is maybe not as sensitive as the others. It's sort of like a chain. It's only as strong as its weakest link. It could be

Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Gentoo! > > As reported in other threads, my new PC had a broken RAM stick in it. > As a result, an unknown proportion of installed binaries are flaky. One > non-functioning binary is probably GCC. > > What I'd like to do is reinstall every

[gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Gentoo! As reported in other threads, my new PC had a broken RAM stick in it. As a result, an unknown proportion of installed binaries are flaky. One non-functioning binary is probably GCC. What I'd like to do is reinstall every binary, yet without erasing any configuration info, whose creat

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > 1. Say stuff it and build a print server into your app. We stopped doing > > that when DOS fell out of fashion. > > 2. Support all possible print systems. lpr anyone? > > 3. Or just use IPC and let dedicated print middleware deal with

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread pk
Alan McKinnon wrote: > 1. Say stuff it and build a print server into your app. We stopped doing that > when DOS fell out of fashion. > 2. Support all possible print systems. lpr anyone? > 3. Or just use IPC and let dedicated print middleware deal with it. What's wrong with lpr? > Multimedia but

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, pk wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser > > or mail app that they are offline? > > I don't have a network connection manager and I don't need that function > in a browser, mail client or any ot

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread pk
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser or > mail app that they are offline? I don't have a network connection manager and I don't need that function in a browser, mail client or any other app. > And don't start with sockets. That w

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86. Got it!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Dale, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 08:27:01AM -0600, Dale wrote: > Where the error is could depend on a single transistor that is maybe > not as sensitive as the others. It's sort of like a chain. It's only > as strong as its weakest link. It could be that whatever is going > wrong could be rig

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Volker, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 01:56:48PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > you can try upping the voltage of the ram by 0.05V. I had a stick that > threw errors unless I gave it a bit more. After that the system was > stable and none of the memtesting apps found any errors. Tried that w

[gentoo-user] Re: in-memory database

2010-02-12 Thread Doug O'Neal
On 02/11/2010 12:27 PM, Hung Dang wrote: Hi all, I am looking for an open source in-memory database for data mining purpose. I have tried to look into /usr/portage/dev-db/ and have not found any in-memory package. Any suggestion? Thanks in advance Hung mysql has a `memory' table engine.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 2/12/2010 10:14 AM, Zeerak Waseem wrote: But then the question isn't whether there are a number of soft dependencies, but in the case of semantic-desktop whether -it- is a soft dependency. Like previously stated, I don't use kmail, nor do I intend to (I at least think I mentioned it). This is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:01:22 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick > >> > >> wrote: > >> > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak W

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 12 Feb, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hi, Gentoo, > > > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > > Just one more reason. > > Have you got more than 4 Gb RAM installed? > > If yes, you might have to reduce memory speed. > Some CPUs (

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread BRM
- Original Message > From: Zeerak Waseem > But then the question isn't whether there are a number of soft dependencies, > but > in the case of semantic-desktop whether -it- is a soft dependency. Like > previously stated, I don't use kmail, nor do I intend to (I at least think I > men

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Zeerak Waseem
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:46:57 +0100, BRM wrote: - Original Message From: Zeerak Waseem On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: >> But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't >> dependent

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 12 Feb, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> Hi, Gentoo, >> >> My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. >> > > Just one more reason. > > Have you got more than 4 Gb RAM installed? > > If yes, you might have to reduce memory speed. > Some CPUs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Zeerak Waseem
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:01:22 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: >> But I do find it silly, that the various applications that

[gentoo-user] SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument

2010-02-12 Thread Valmor de Almeida
Hello, I am getting a SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument [ok] message when re/starting eth0. I am wondering about that. The router's MTU is set at 1500. Looking at the /etc/init.d/net.eth0 it seems the inteface metrics should be calculated automatically. Any ideas about where to look for the reason

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread BRM
- Original Message > From: Zeerak Waseem > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > >> But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't > >> dependent of the DE, to require a dependency of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86

2010-02-12 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: Hi, Dale, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 06:43:46AM -0600, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:22:21AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: When I

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Dale, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 06:43:46AM -0600, Dale wrote: > chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > >On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:22:21AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >>When I run memtest86 from the gentoo boot disk, it signals millions > >>of failures in b11 o

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 14:43:30 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > failures in b11 of 32 bit words. > > > > I'll try unplugging and replugging these. > > No help. :-( > > No matter how I plug in the RAM (4 combinations of 2 sticks into 2 pairs > of slots) it is always b11 which fails and always at a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick > > wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > >> But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't > >> dependent of the DE, to require a dependency of

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Alan, > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > Hi, Gentoo, > > > > > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > > > > > > The first sign

Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86

2010-02-12 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:22:21AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo,

[gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:22:21AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > Hi, Gentoo, > > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > > > The first sign was when the

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 12 Feb, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Gentoo, > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > Just one more reason. Have you got more than 4 Gb RAM installed? If yes, you might have to reduce memory speed. Some CPUs (among them AMD Phenom) have difficulties at the specified RAM speed if

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Gentoo, > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > > The first sign was when the compiler threw a segfault whilst emerging > the xfce window manager.  I "solved" this by emerging Openbox instead. > > Then I got another compil

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far

2010-02-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 09 February 2010 16:31:15 Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> >> > There's a few small downsides I've run into with all of this so far: >> > >> > 1) Since we don't use sector 63 it seems that fdi

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Alan, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hi, Gentoo, > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > > The first sign was when the compiler threw a segfault whilst emerging > > the xfce window m

Re: [gentoo-user] Keyword for dev-java/sun-j2ee

2010-02-12 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Friday 12 February 2010 01:51:40 Dale wrote: By the way, just installed KDE 4.4 and I still can't open a file with Dolphin as root. You are not supposed to do that. Dolphin runs as you. Nope, I got it set to

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 11:42:26 Graham Murray wrote: > Alan McKinnon writes: > > On Friday 12 February 2010 09:44:01 Graham Murray wrote: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann writes: > >> > so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a > >> > broweser or mail app that they are offline?

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 11:46:33 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > Hi, Gentoo, > > > > > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > > > > > > The first sign was whe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 12:15:13 Zeerak Waseem wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick > > wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > >> But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't > >> dependent of the DE, to require a depend

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:42:26 +, Graham Murray wrote: > >> Why does the app need to know? Browsers normally have an > >> online/offline menu selection and if you try to browse to a site > >> when your network is offline then the browser will generate the > >> appropriate error message. You're

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Zeerak Waseem
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:53:04 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't dependent of the DE, to require a dependency of the DE. It just seems a bit backwards to me :-) I simply don't

Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far

2010-02-12 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 09 February 2010 16:31:15 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > There's a few small downsides I've run into with all of this so far: > > > > 1) Since we don't use sector 63 it seems that fdisk will still tell > > you that you can use 63 until

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Roy Wright
Another thing to try, change compile flag to -J1 (MAKEOPTS="-J1" emerge ...) Last time I built up a system there were a couple of packages that couldn't handle parallel compiles. HTH, Roy

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Roy Wright
On Feb 12, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I hope you're not right here. ;-) The hardware is spanking brand new; > so new, in fact, that it's still gleaming. > > Are there any handy utility programs around to test RA

Re: [gentoo-user] script to check if a package is installed ?

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:38:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Unfortunately eix -I -q CAT/PACK > > produces a return code of 0 irrespectively if CAT/PACK > > is install or not. > > > > I'd like to say > > > > for P in ...; do > > if CHECK_IF_INSTALLED $P; then echo $P; fi > > done > >

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Daniel Wagener
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:46:33 + Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > Hi, Gentoo, > > > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > > > > The first sign was when the c

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Lewis Handy
> > I hope you're not right here.  ;-)  The hardware is spanking brand new; > so new, in fact, that it's still gleaming. > > Are there any handy utility programs around to test RAM exhaustively? > Most live CD's these days will come with memtest86 as a boot option, that would give your RAM a good

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail?

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:19:43 +0100, Zeerak Waseem wrote: > But I do find it silly, that the various applications that aren't > dependent of the DE, to require a dependency of the DE. It just seems > a bit backwards to me :-) I simply don't understand. That just shows that they are still partial

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 12 Feb, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> > Hi, Gentoo, > >> > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > >> > The first sign was when the compiler threw a segfault whils

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:21:22 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Could you (or anyone else here) give us a really dumbed-down summary > > of why a dev would want/need to use a socket, versus a pipe, versus > > a signal, versus dbus, versus, well, whatever else is out there? Alan's answered all of t

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Graham Murray
Alan McKinnon writes: > On Friday 12 February 2010 09:44:01 Graham Murray wrote: >> Volker Armin Hemmann writes: >> > so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser >> > or mail app that they are offline? >> >> Why does the app need to know? Browsers normally have an o

Re: [gentoo-user] script to check if a package is installed ?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 11:16:22 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > does anybody know how to check if a package is installed using a script/ > shell. > > Unfortunately eix -I -q CAT/PACK > produces a return code of 0 irrespectively if CAT/PACK > is install or not. > > I'd like to say > > fo

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hi, Gentoo, > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > > The first sign was when the compiler threw a segfault whilst emerging > > the xfce window manager. I

[gentoo-user] script to check if a package is installed ?

2010-02-12 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, does anybody know how to check if a package is installed using a script/ shell. Unfortunately eix -I -q CAT/PACK produces a return code of 0 irrespectively if CAT/PACK is install or not. I'd like to say for P in ...; do if CHECK_IF_INSTALLED $P; then echo $P; fi done What to rep

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread William Kenworthy
I am (was) getting this as well on a new amd64 install (zotac ION n330) - it appears there is a problem with certain glibc 32bit libraries - there is a bug about it. Upgraded glibc and most things are now happy - but I still cant build gcc. BillK On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 10:50 +0200, Alan McKinno

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Gentoo, > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > > The first sign was when the compiler threw a segfault whilst emerging > the xfce window manager. I "solved" this by emerging Openbox instead. > > Then I got another co

[gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Gentoo, My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. The first sign was when the compiler threw a segfault whilst emerging the xfce window manager. I "solved" this by emerging Openbox instead. Then I got another compiler segfault whilst emerging firefox (yes, I know there's a binary for

Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?

2010-02-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 12 February 2010 09:44:01 Graham Murray wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann writes: > > so how do you propose that a network connection manager tells a broweser > > or mail app that they are offline? > > Why does the app need to know? Browsers normally have an online/offline > menu selection