Re: [gentoo-user] Re: went from x86 to ~x86: no more X11

2009-12-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 09.12.2009 01:24, schrieb walt: > Looks to me like the X server *is* running, unless you left out the error > message at the end of the log. No, nothing left out. > Why do you say X didn't come up? Because it says so. I get that dialog "X-Server could not be started" (similar, I get the

Re: [gentoo-user] startup script use the wrong find command

2009-12-08 Thread Xi Shen
yeah, that's the point. the initramfs has already passed, and it seems the system did not successfully switch_root, and it still using busybox. my init script in the initramfs is a slightly modified version of the one on this page http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1

Re: [gentoo-user] Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-08 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 07 December 2009 22:14:55 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:10:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The only benefit, which is questionable, is that python-3 is where its at development-wise, and maybe perhaps the 2* series will become unmaintained (sh

[gentoo-user] Re: went from x86 to ~x86: no more X11

2009-12-08 Thread walt
On 12/08/2009 11:26 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Greets, gentoo-users, I wanted to go to full ~x86 on my thinkpad these days, so I started with an "emerge -avu system" and after a successful reboot I did "emerge -avuDN world". X11 didn't come up anymore ... I even tried a "emerge -e world",

Re: [gentoo-user] went from x86 to ~x86: no more X11

2009-12-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Joshua Murphy schrieb: > Looking at that log, my first question is... does your thinkpad run > 1680x1050? Yes. ThinkPad R61 ... > The RECORD disable shouldn't make a difference on X > actually loading, based on the message it gives, and the (EE) lines > about dri/dri2 shouldn't be an issue with

Re: [gentoo-user] went from x86 to ~x86: no more X11

2009-12-08 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Greets, gentoo-users, > > I wanted to go to full ~x86 on my thinkpad these days, so I started with > an "emerge -avu system" and after a successful reboot I did "emerge > -avuDN world". > > X11 didn't come up anymore ... I even tried

Re: [gentoo-user] udev and SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-08 Thread Kelly Hirai
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Allan Gottlieb wrote: > At Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:26:26 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:09:49 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >> >>> Today's emerge gave the following warning (in red). >>> * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED:should

[gentoo-user] went from x86 to ~x86: no more X11

2009-12-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Greets, gentoo-users, I wanted to go to full ~x86 on my thinkpad these days, so I started with an "emerge -avu system" and after a successful reboot I did "emerge -avuDN world". X11 didn't come up anymore ... I even tried a "emerge -e world", just to "get it right" but still no luck. See my Xor

Re: [gentoo-user] Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 07 December 2009 22:14:55 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:10:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > The only benefit, which is questionable, is that python-3 is where its > > at development-wise, and maybe perhaps the 2* series will become > > unmaintained (shades of KDE-3). But

Re: [gentoo-user] startup script use the wrong find command

2009-12-08 Thread Alex Schuster
Xi Shen writes: > yes i use / on LVM. Me too. > i just cannot understand why the busybox in the initramfs that > genkernel generates works fine, while mine reports error. And I do not understand why the "wiping tmp" stuff actually happens while you are still in the initramfs. For me, /tmp is n

Re: [gentoo-user] udev and SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-08 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:26:26 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:09:49 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >> Today's emerge gave the following warning (in red). >> * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED: should not be set. But it is. >> * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2: should not b

Re: [gentoo-user] udev and SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:09:49 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > Today's emerge gave the following warning (in red). > * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED: should not be set. But it is. > * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2: should not be set. But it is. > > Does this mean I must make that change in the k

[gentoo-user] udev and SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-08 Thread Allan Gottlieb
Today's emerge gave the following warning (in red). * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED:should not be set. But it is. * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2: should not be set. But it is. Does this mean I must make that change in the kernel config today (I shutdown each night) or can it wait for 2 d

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I solve "emerge @preserved-rebuild" loop?

2009-12-08 Thread Arttu V.
On 12/8/09, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 08 December 2009 14:08:47 Dale wrote: >> Is this the one where you need to fetch the files first, then un-emerge >> and emerge? I recall one being that way but not sure if it is this one. > > No, that was a while ago. This is simply a conflict involvi

[gentoo-user] Re: Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-08 Thread Remy Blank
Neil Bothwick wrote: > Where is USE_PYTHON documented? I see no mention of it in man make.conf, > make.conf.example or the portage elogs. In /usr/portage/eclass/python.eclass ;-) To be honest, I wanted that feature so badly that I dug through python.eclass as soon as I saw arfrever mention it. F

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I solve "emerge @preserved-rebuild" loop?

2009-12-08 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 08 December 2009 14:08:47 Dale wrote: I have the same problem, but the "emerge -av1 util-linux" has blocking issues with sys-fs/e2fsprogs. Whenever I remove sys-fs stuff I usually regret it. You must remove the e2fsprogs* packages, emerge util-li

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I solve "emerge @preserved-rebuild" loop?

2009-12-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 December 2009 14:08:47 Dale wrote: > >> I have the same problem, but the "emerge -av1 util-linux" has blocking > >> issues with sys-fs/e2fsprogs. Whenever I remove sys-fs stuff I usually > >> regret it. > >> > > > > You must remove the e2fsprogs* packages, emerge util-linux and

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I solve "emerge @preserved-rebuild" loop?

2009-12-08 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 08 December 2009 13:06:28 dhk wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 07 December 2009 20:10:31 Jarry wrote: Hi, I update my server quite frequently without any problem, but today after running "emerge -uDN world" I got these messages: - !!! e

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-08 Thread Arttu V.
On 12/8/09, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Let me emphasise yet again: the way I do things has been successful >> on 2 machines for more than 6 years; it's others who have problems >> doing it their way & regularly seek advice on this list as a result. > > Let me correct you there: > > The experience

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I solve "emerge @preserved-rebuild" loop?

2009-12-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 December 2009 13:06:28 dhk wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Monday 07 December 2009 20:10:31 Jarry wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I update my server quite frequently without any problem, but > >> today after running "emerge -uDN world" I got these messages: > >> > >> - > >> > >> !!! exi

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I solve "emerge @preserved-rebuild" loop?

2009-12-08 Thread dhk
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 07 December 2009 20:10:31 Jarry wrote: >> Hi, >> I update my server quite frequently without any problem, but >> today after running "emerge -uDN world" I got these messages: >> >> - >> >> !!! existing preserved libs: >> >>> package: sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.4

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:02:47 +0100, Remy Blank wrote: > So, going back to the initial question, you could just emerge Python > 3.1, enable it in USE_PYTHON in make.conf, but leave 2.6 as a default. Where is USE_PYTHON documented? I see no mention of it in man make.conf, make.conf.example or the p

Re: [gentoo-user] X fails after new install

2009-12-08 Thread dhk
Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 06:36:25PM -0500, dhk wrote > >> I started hald and rebuilt the drivers: startx still fails. > > I've hard-masked hal and dbus (and pam) in /etc/portage/package.mask > and X runs OK. > > From your messages, I assume you've got some ATI card. Wha

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Google's public DNS service

2009-12-08 Thread Adam
> I know that anyone can use any DNS server that's exposed to the internet, > also for free, so what's the big deal about google? IMO a DNS server configured that way is poorly configured (unless you're actually trying to run a public service, as google is). Instead the use of BINDs allow-recursio

[gentoo-user] Re: Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-08 Thread Remy Blank
Alan McKinnon wrote: > Agreed. The elog message strikes me as merely an enthusiastic endorsement of > cool shiny new stuff from an over-zealous maintainer who doesn't quite grasp > how slow traction can be in the real world While that may be true, and even though he did make a few mistakes in th