Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:42:43 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> >>> I have NEVER asked portage to keep a copy of EVERYTHING online. >>> >> Yet it does. >> >> >>> I >>> think it's a sinthat portage decid

[gentoo-user] Re: need smbpasswd coaching

2009-06-23 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam writes: > So next tried an actual Gentoo user name: > > smbpasswd reader > root # smbpasswd reader Gackkk I left out the all important -a Sorry for the line noise

[gentoo-user] need smbpasswd coaching

2009-06-23 Thread Harry Putnam
Its so seldom that I have to work on samba config I forget between times whatever steps are needed. This time I just copied an old config over to a new[ish] gentoo install. Now attempting to set smbpasswds. First I tried to give a windows client user name (but no such user on gentoo OS). Failed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:42:43 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> I have NEVER asked portage to keep a copy of EVERYTHING online. > > Yet it does. > >> I >> think it's a sinthat portage decides to remove files from MY machine, >> files that I'm curr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 06/24/2009 03:06 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>> [...] >>> Family gets no MythTV for a few days, or maybe forever? >>> >>> I'm trying to mask things to check this and emerge is really mad at me. >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:06:42 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> I absolutely HATE this about portage. Update your machine just >> thinking about trying a new piece of software and then find you cannot >> immediately go back. Gentoo was supposed to

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Use of sed

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:48:07 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I'm reduced to asking a newcomer's question: how can I make sed recurse > down a directory tree? You don't, that's not sed's job, which is to edit the text you give it. Use find to generate a list of files for sed to work on. > And whi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:42:43 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > I have NEVER asked portage to keep a copy of EVERYTHING online. Yet it does. > I > think it's a sinthat portage decides to remove files from MY machine, > files that I'm currently using, files that I require. It doesn't. It may remove fil

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:06:42 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > I absolutely HATE this about portage. Update your machine just > thinking about trying a new piece of software and then find you cannot > immediately go back. Gentoo was supposed to be about choice. Seems > it's not about my choice anymore.

Re: [gentoo-user] Power management updates?

2009-06-23 Thread Mike Mazur
Hi, On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 04:44, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2009 15:56:47 Mike Mazur wrote: >> >> I noticed some issues with the power management setup I had when I >> upgraded kernels over the last few months. This past weekend I decided >> to crack down on this to see whether th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Keith Dart
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:06:42 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: > Am I hosed again? Did updating portage break my machine by removing > what I was just using: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. ;-) Portage does drop many old packages over time, to keep the package database to a reasonable size. -- -- -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 06/24/2009 03:27 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> Gentoo is for me. Gentoo is the only distro I run and the only one >> I've run for at least 6 years. Gentoo has run on THIS VERY MACHINE for >> over 4 years and it is the ONLY distro that ha

[gentoo-user] udev, cryptsetup, and ensuing problems

2009-06-23 Thread John P. Burkett
On an x86 machine with kernel 2.6.17-gentoo-r4, I did "eix-sync" and "emerge -NauvD system" and received a response including the following line: [blocks B ] >=sys-fs/udev-126 (">=sys-fs/udev-126" is blocking sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.0.5-r1) Doing "emerge -p -C udev" elicited the following lines:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 06/24/2009 03:06 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> [...] >> Family gets no MythTV for a few days, or maybe forever? >> >> I'm trying to mask things to check this and emerge is really mad at me. > > As a last attempt at damage control, try th

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/24/2009 03:27 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: Gentoo is for me. Gentoo is the only distro I run and the only one I've run for at least 6 years. Gentoo has run on THIS VERY MACHINE for over 4 years and it is the ONLY distro that has EVER run on this machine. Today I run eix-sync and emerge xorg-x11 a

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/24/2009 03:06 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: [...] Family gets no MythTV for a few days, or maybe forever? I'm trying to mask things to check this and emerge is really mad at me. As a last attempt at damage control, try the full update anyway. Remove "fglrx" from VIDEO_CARDS and replace it wit

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 06/24/2009 03:06 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> [...] >> Am I hosed again? Did updating portage break my machine by removing >> what I was just using: >> [...] >> >> Is xorg-server-1.1.1 completely gone and I'm hosed? I'm not finding it >

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/24/2009 03:06 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: [...] Am I hosed again? Did updating portage break my machine by removing what I was just using: [...] Is xorg-server-1.1.1 completely gone and I'm hosed? I'm not finding it on my my machine. The only variations on that theme seem to be in /var/db/pkg.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 06/24/2009 02:20 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi all,    Main question is whether there is any change in the way I s

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Use of sed

2009-06-23 Thread Roy Wright
On Jun 23, 2009, at 6:48 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, I'm reduced to asking a newcomer's question: how can I make sed recurse down a directory tree? And while I'm at it, how do I change the field separator from / to enable me to search on that character? maybe something like:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> On 06/24/2009 02:20 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>>    Main question is whether there is any change in the way I select >>> the fglrx driver with xorg-server-1.5? >>> >>>  

[gentoo-user] [OT] Use of sed

2009-06-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, I'm reduced to asking a newcomer's question: how can I make sed recurse down a directory tree? And while I'm at it, how do I change the field separator from / to enable me to search on that character? I used to have a "SED and AWK" book, but it seems to have walked; and I can't see

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 06/24/2009 02:20 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> Hi all, >>    Main question is whether there is any change in the way I select >> the fglrx driver with xorg-server-1.5? >> >>    I have a big emerge running on one of my MythTV frontends th

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/24/2009 02:20 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi all, Main question is whether there is any change in the way I select the fglrx driver with xorg-server-1.5? I have a big emerge running on one of my MythTV frontends that uses an old 2.6.19 kernel with an old 8.28 ati-driver package. The mac

[gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi all, Main question is whether there is any change in the way I select the fglrx driver with xorg-server-1.5? I have a big emerge running on one of my MythTV frontends that uses an old 2.6.19 kernel with an old 8.28 ati-driver package. The machine does not use a keyboard or mouse. I cannot

Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem -- is timing?

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:59:02 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: > > It's really not that hard, but you seem to be trying to find clever > > Walking's hard -- until you learn. But you've been using Gentoo for some time now, so you would be expected to have a grasp of the fundamentals. After all, you pa

Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem -- is timing?

2009-06-23 Thread Maxim Wexler
> Create two partitions on sdb > mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/gentoo/var > mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/gentoo/home > > It's really not that hard, but you seem to be trying to find clever Walking's hard -- until you learn. > solutions when the simple one will do. Well, of course the simple things have a way of

Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem -- is timing?

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:15:13 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: > OK, been staring at this terminal for about an hour. I'm at > r...@sysresccd /mnt/gentoo where sda1 is mounted. Do I just mount sdb1 > on /mnt/gentoo too? Do I delete home and var then mkdirs on sdb2? > Won't they just be re-made on the sam

Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem -- is timing?

2009-06-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 21:15:13 Maxim Wexler wrote: > > I'd put /home and /var on the SD card to start with, you may need to > > put /usr/src on there too or your SSD may fill up when installing or > > compiling a second or third kernel. > > > > I'd also move the portage tree there, but you can do

Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem -- is timing?

2009-06-23 Thread Maxim Wexler
> I'd put /home and /var on the SD card to start with, you may need to > put /usr/src on there too or your SSD may fill up when installing or > compiling a second or third kernel. > > I'd also move the portage tree there, but you can do that > post-installation by moving /usr/portage to /var/portag

Re: [gentoo-user] ReSOLVED: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 18:09:39 James wrote: > Nikos Chantziaras arcor.de> writes: > >app-arch/xz-utils ** > > > > in package.keywords. I used that because is the only version > > available. If you wish narrow it down nonetheless, use: > > > >~app-arch/xz-utils- ** > > Both wor

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 17:49:40 James wrote: > Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > * removes masking keywords if the package is stable on your arch > > ~* removes masking keywords if the package is stable on any arch > > ** removes masking keywords for the package unconditionally > > none of th

[gentoo-user] strange warning after upgrading php

2009-06-23 Thread John covici
Does anyone know about the following warning I got after upgrading to php5-5.2.10? PHP Warning: PHP Startup: mm_create(0, /session_mm_cli500) failed, err mm:core: failed to open semaphore file (Permission denied) in Unknown on line 0 Downgrading gets rid of the warning and a google search revea

[gentoo-user] ReSOLVED: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread James
Nikos Chantziaras arcor.de> writes: >app-arch/xz-utils ** > in package.keywords. I used that because is the only version > available. If you wish narrow it down nonetheless, use: >~app-arch/xz-utils- ** Both work! got it now. Sorry but reading the man pages on portage an

[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread James
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > I cheat and just do this: > x11-wm/enlightenment * ~* ** Does not work for xz-utils. Neil's post may be the reason, but there is definately nothing I've read (in man pages) to distinguish these anomalous cases? > But enlightenment is a special case. e17

[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/23/2009 06:28 PM, James wrote: Nikos Chantziaras arcor.de> writes: There's a point to everything. You need to use whatever suits what you want to do. Ok got it. Now how do I unmask the version of: app-arch/xz-utils Available versions: ** By putting: app-arc

[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > make the app-arch/xz-utils- (SVN) version available. > This ebuild doesn't have a valid KEYWORDS line, try something less broken. OK, I tried is because there does not seem to be other dependancies. Pick an example for me, cause nothing I ever do

[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread James
Nikos Chantziaras arcor.de> writes: > There's a point to everything. You need to use whatever suits what you > want to do. Ok got it. Now how do I unmask the version of: app-arch/xz-utils Available versions: ** James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 16:40:51 James wrote: > Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > > This is my (mis)conception, although, as you have suggest, > > > there are (gentoo) cultural norms that do suggest > > > certain boolean operations should not be used, > > > in say for example, package.keywords?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:40:51 + (UTC), James wrote: > app-arch/xz-utils > Nothing I tried in either package.keywords or package.unmask > make the app-arch/xz-utils- (SVN) version available. This ebuild doesn't have a valid KEYWORDS line, try something less broken. -- Neil Bothwick Head

[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/23/2009 05:40 PM, James wrote: [...] So entries in package.keywords should just have the ~ in front of them? No point in using other boolean operations in the package.keywords file? There's a point to everything. You need to use whatever suits what you want to do. ~: This version an

[gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread James
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > This is my (mis)conception, although, as you have suggest, > > there are (gentoo) cultural norms that do suggest > > certain boolean operations should not be used, > > in say for example, package.keywords? > That's more just a safeguard against forgetting yo

[gentoo-user] Re: strange dependency ?

2009-06-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/23/2009 11:15 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, I was quite surprised when I tried to emerge media-libs/tiff (3.8.2-r6) today. I got the error messages !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - sys-devel/gcc-4.4.0 (Change USE: +objc) [...] So, why the requirem

Re: [gentoo-user] strange dependency ?

2009-06-23 Thread Sebastian Günther
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:15:02 +0200 (CEST) Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > I was quite surprised when I tried to emerge media-libs/tiff > (3.8.2-r6) today. I got the error messages > > !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your > request: > - sys-devel/gcc-4.4.0 (Change USE:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Arttu V.
On 6/22/09, James wrote: > Arttu V. gmail.com> writes: > >> More reading: ebuild(5)" > > Ah, ok so there is not restriction on using any of the > the boolean operators in any config file underneath > /etc/portage? as section 5 does not mention any Well, for those files t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:27:37 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Well that's easy, just don't use kdm :-) > > If you want pretty, there's entrance > If you want light, there's slim > If you want hard-core, there's xdm If you want lazy, use kdm with auto-login. -- Neil Bothwick .sig? we don't need

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with the graphic card

2009-06-23 Thread Dale
Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote: > Thank you all for your beautiful help and your patience (my thread is > 33 mails long!!). > > This has been one of the best support I have ever got (much better > than many paid support services). > > Thank you! > > Massimiliano That's the beauty of Gentoo. If the f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 23 June 2009 09:38:32 Dale wrote: > >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:51:45 -0500, Dale wrote: >>> This sounds cool. I don't unmask a lot or anything but something like KDE 4 comes to mind for this. That requires a lot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Weitao Sun
Alan McKinnon wrote: > There's also gdm. But I don't talk about gdm. It's personal, and painful. > Don't ask :-) > Well, tell us why you don't like gdm. :-) ;-p __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4180

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 09:38:32 Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:51:45 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> This sounds cool. I don't unmask a lot or anything but something like > >> KDE 4 comes to mind for this. That requires a lot of work. I'm going > >> to have to check to se

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with the graphic card

2009-06-23 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Thank you all for your beautiful help and your patience (my thread is 33 mails long!!). This has been one of the best support I have ever got (much better than many paid support services). Thank you! Massimiliano

[gentoo-user] strange dependency ?

2009-06-23 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I was quite surprised when I tried to emerge media-libs/tiff (3.8.2-r6) today. I got the error messages !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - sys-devel/gcc-4.4.0 (Change USE: +objc) (dependency required by "media-libs/tiff-3.8.2-r6" [ebuild]) (dependency re

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm man page has broken link to X

2009-06-23 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:59:14 -0700 "Kevin O'Gorman" wrote: > I am exploring a few things about terminal programs, and am finding > their man pages hard going. Just as an example, the xterm page > coverage of -geometry points to the man page for X(7), but no such > page exists on my system, and I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:51:45 -0500, Dale wrote: > > >> This sounds cool. I don't unmask a lot or anything but something like >> KDE 4 comes to mind for this. That requires a lot of work. I'm going >> to have to check to see if autounmask supports this too. >> > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.keywords

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:51:45 -0500, Dale wrote: > This sounds cool. I don't unmask a lot or anything but something like > KDE 4 comes to mind for this. That requires a lot of work. I'm going > to have to check to see if autounmask supports this too. It does, it creates a file called autounmask

Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem -- is timing?

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:12:01 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: > Ok, I did it! No more LVM! Wiped the SSD and made one partition out of > it. Mounted it on /mnt/gentoo and unpacked the stage3 tarball. Silly > question: now what? Where do I mount the SD card prior to unpacking > portage? Do I make separat

[gentoo-user] Re: [off-topic] diary/blog desktop software advice

2009-06-23 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Tuesday 23 June 2009, Mike Kazantsev wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:18:25 +0200 > > Francesco Talamona wrote: > > I am looking for a software to keep a paperless diary, but I seem I > > can't find anything valid, at first I tried app-office/qchartdiary, > > it doesn't run, then I found www-app