Re: [gentoo-hardened] SELinux policy rules principles?

2011-01-19 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:06:47AM -0600, Chris Richards wrote: > My general feeling is that the system should operate FROM THE USER > PERSPECTIVE the way it always does, i.e. the existence of SELinux should > be relatively transparent to the user and/or administrator, at least to > the extent t

Re: [gentoo-hardened] SELinux policy rules principles?

2011-01-19 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 08:22:03PM +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: > Why not have a look at what Fedora and RHEL/CentOS does in that regards? > They've probably already been through a lot of these decisions as well, and > were probably also one of the earlier adopters. Well, most of these distrib

Re: [gentoo-hardened] SELinux policy rules principles?

2011-01-19 Thread Chris Richards
On 01/19/2011 01:39 PM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: So you want the application to function properly and that the logs have no "cosmetic" AVC denials (fine - fully agree here). One thing that I can't gather from this is - do you want to dontaudit the AVC denials which apparently have no impact on fu

Re: [gentoo-hardened] SELinux policy rules principles?

2011-01-19 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 02:05:39PM -0600, Chris Richards wrote: > As I mentioned previously, my concern with having harmless AVCs in the > log is that we create a situation where the System Admin gets so used to > seeing all of these AVCs that he gets in the habit of ignoring them. > Being in t

Re: [gentoo-hardened] SELinux policy rules principles?

2011-01-19 Thread Chris Richards
On 01/19/2011 02:25 PM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 02:05:39PM -0600, Chris Richards wrote: As I mentioned previously, my concern with having harmless AVCs in the log is that we create a situation where the System Admin gets so used to seeing all of these AVCs that he gets in t