[gentoo-hardened] kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Joseph C. Lininger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hey folks, Has anyone else noticed that the entire hardened-sources package has vanished from the hardened-development overlay? I know it's a development overlay and all, but I figured I should mention it because it's just gone. All versions. It stru

Re: [gentoo-hardened] kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Ed W
On 19/04/2010 17:53, Joseph C. Lininger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hey folks, Has anyone else noticed that the entire hardened-sources package has vanished from the hardened-development overlay? I know it's a development overlay and all, but I figured I should mention

[gentoo-hardened] Re: kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Kerin Millar
On 19/04/2010 17:53, Joseph C. Lininger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hey folks, Has anyone else noticed that the entire hardened-sources package has vanished from the hardened-development overlay? I know it's a development overlay and all, but I figured I should mention

Re: [gentoo-hardened] kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 04/19/10 13:16, Ed W wrote: I guess others will disagree, but I have never been a huge fan of the kernel ebuilds. I'm just not clear what they buy you over downloading and compiling your own? I think there are a few extra patches in the case of gentoo-sources, but that seems to be about it?

Re: [gentoo-hardened] kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/19/2010 2:31 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 04/19/10 13:16, Ed W wrote: >> I guess others will disagree, but I have never been a huge fan of the >> kernel ebuilds. I'm just not clear what they buy you over downloading >> and compiling your own? I think there are a few extra patches in the >

Re: [gentoo-hardened] kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread David Sommerseth
On 19/04/10 20:31, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 04/19/10 13:16, Ed W wrote: >> I guess others will disagree, but I have never been a huge fan of the >> kernel ebuilds. I'm just not clear what they buy you over downloading >> and compiling your own? I think there are a few extra patches in the >> ca

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Re: kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Guillaume Castagnino
Le lundi 19 avril 2010 19:46:57, Kerin Millar a écrit : > They've been moved into anarchy's personal overlay: > > http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=dev/anarchy.git;a=commit;h=a4802d1 > 087c90a1371c15de195282c4601428dbe I really do NOT understand this move. We had a centralized place where

[gentoo-hardened] Re: kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Kerin Millar
On 19/04/2010 20:45, David Sommerseth wrote: [snip] Yes, you are right. But still ... it's now closer to one year *without* any updates for the stable kernel. Which means, compiling the latest upstream 2.6.33.2 kernel might be a lot safer, than the 2.6.28-r9 which is marked stable now. As a

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Re: kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Ed W
On 19/04/2010 21:12, Guillaume Castagnino wrote: Le lundi 19 avril 2010 19:46:57, Kerin Millar a écrit : They've been moved into anarchy's personal overlay: http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=dev/anarchy.git;a=commit;h=a4802d1 087c90a1371c15de195282c4601428dbe I really do NOT u

Re: [gentoo-hardened] kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Ed W
On 19/04/2010 20:37, Mike Edenfield wrote: * The ebuilds for e.g. hardened-sources do all the patching for you, which is nice. And since hardened-sources is three *different* patchsets put together, this one alone is plenty reason for me :) OK, I'll bite I don't have an old

Re: [gentoo-hardened] kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Mansour Moufid
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Joseph C. Lininger wrote: > Hey folks, > Has anyone else noticed that the entire hardened-sources package has > vanished from the hardened-development overlay? I know it's a > development overlay and all, but I figured I should mention it because > it's just gone.

Re: [gentoo-hardened] kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Ed W
I realise everyone has different needs, but perhaps try pulling your own kernel down and applying your own patches - I think it's about easier to maintain in most cases? * The ebuilds for e.g. hardened-sources do all the patching for you, which is nice. Hmm, it's a very weak one, but yes o

Re: [gentoo-hardened] kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Ed W
On 20/04/2010 00:05, Mansour Moufid wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Joseph C. Lininger wrote: Hey folks, Has anyone else noticed that the entire hardened-sources package has vanished from the hardened-development overlay? I know it's a development overlay and all, but I figured I s

Re: [gentoo-hardened] kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread klondike
2010/4/20 Mansour Moufid : In any case, it's clear to me now that Gentoo Hardened is more a pet project of a handful of (not very communicative) developers than it is a serious (meta)distribution. I have serious doubts on what you say because I have seen those developers working. signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-hardened] kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Mansour Moufid
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Ed W wrote: > Can we please avoid annoying the few developers we have working on hardened. I didn't mean to come off as critiquing anyone. I am a fan of the Gentoo Hardened and Security projects. I was only stating my impressions. > I would also disagree that the

Re: [gentoo-hardened] kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Anthony G Basile
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 01:35 +0200, klondike wrote: > 2010/4/20 Mansour Moufid : > > In any case, it's clear to me now that Gentoo Hardened is more a pet > > project of a handful of (not very communicative) developers than it is > > a serious (meta)distribution. > I have serious doubts on what you s

Re: [gentoo-hardened] kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Tóth Attila
Thanks for all the dedicated developers working on the hardened project. Dw. -- dr Tóth Attila, Radiológus, 06-20-825-8057, 06-30-5962-962 Attila Toth MD, Radiologist, +36-20-825-8057, +36-30-5962-962 On Ked, Április 20, 2010 02:00, Anthony G Basile wrote: > On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 01:35 +0200, kl

Re: [gentoo-hardened] kernel no longer in hardened-development overlay?

2010-04-19 Thread Kai Dietrich
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 Ed W wrote: > I guess I concede the ebuilds are useful, but I would kind of expect > most people on this list to be well within the capability to build their > own kernel, Well, I can just speak for me. It's not that I'm not able to do it, it's just that I don't want to