Re: [gentoo-hardened] systemd and gentoo

2012-05-22 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 17 May 2012 21:01:00 Tóth Attila wrote: > I've recently come across some articles about the hal - dbus - udev - > consolekit - upower udisks - systemd movement. And there's openrc. A > couple of months before I converted the systems to openrc. > What we should prepare for next? When wil

Re: [gentoo-hardened] systemd and gentoo

2012-05-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 18 May 2012 10:29:41 + Pavel Labushev wrote: > does pid file inspection has regex matching now Fair enough but for me, I prefer a simple and scripted init system.

Re: [gentoo-hardened] systemd and gentoo

2012-05-18 Thread Pavel Labushev
On Fri, 18 May 2012 08:56:03 +0100 Kevin Chadwick wrote: > What's wrong with init respawn or supervise and/or monit? sysvinit: - adding/removing/stopping a service requires editing inittab or ad-hoc solutions - no integrated logging - no dependency tracking system monit: - depends on external s

Re: [gentoo-hardened] systemd and gentoo

2012-05-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 18 May 2012 02:56:06 + Pavel Labushev wrote: > try making your own custom scripts for runit, minit or > similar minimalistic supervisor together with sudo or su for PAM > support (setuid-root isn't required for root->unprivileged uid > changes). It's simple, fast, maintainable and coul

Re: [gentoo-hardened] systemd and gentoo

2012-05-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 18 May 2012 03:01:00 +0200 Tóth Attila wrote: > Somebody should pull the brakes, please. Your too polite, you mean, Somebody should give some people a slap for breaking unix philosophies and not understanding what Unix is already capable of. I've already disabled consolekit and udisks. T

Re: [gentoo-hardened] systemd and gentoo

2012-05-17 Thread Alex Efros
Hi! On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 02:56:06AM +, Pavel Labushev wrote: > > Somebody should pull the brakes, please. > My humble advise: try making your own custom scripts for runit, minit or Actually, if you decide to go this way, you probably find packages from my overlay 'powerman' is good startin

Re: [gentoo-hardened] systemd and gentoo

2012-05-17 Thread Pavel Labushev
On Fri, 18 May 2012 03:01:00 +0200 "Tóth Attila" wrote: > Somebody should pull the brakes, please. My humble advise: try making your own custom scripts for runit, minit or similar minimalistic supervisor together with sudo or su for PAM support (setuid-root isn't required for root->unprivileged

[gentoo-hardened] systemd and gentoo

2012-05-17 Thread Tóth Attila
I've recently come across some articles about the hal - dbus - udev - consolekit - upower udisks - systemd movement. And there's openrc. A couple of months before I converted the systems to openrc. What we should prepare for next? When will it happen? Is it already happening? Somebody should pull t