Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-21 Thread klondike
El 21/02/11 21:34, Thomas Sachau escribió: > Am 21.02.2011 01:23, schrieb Aaron W. Swenson: >> On 02/19/2011 12:02 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >>> On 02/15/2011 02:12 PM, Chris Frederick wrote: Hi everyone, I'll chime in on this one. I want to clarify what is being asked, and add

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
Am 21.02.2011 01:23, schrieb Aaron W. Swenson: > On 02/19/2011 12:02 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> On 02/15/2011 02:12 PM, Chris Frederick wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I'll chime in on this one. I want to clarify what is being asked, and add >>> my two cents. > >> Okay, I don't think there

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-21 Thread Tóth Attila
I've been running nut & upsd without ipv6 (either in kernel or userland) for ages on Hardened x86. Regards: Dw. -- dr Tóth Attila, Radiológus, 06-20-825-8057 Attila Toth MD, Radiologist, +36-20-825-8057 2011.Február 21.(H) 19:34 időpontban sch...@subverted.org ezt írta: > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-21 Thread schism
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:02:20PM -0500, Anthony G. Basile wrote: | On 02/15/2011 02:12 PM, Chris Frederick wrote: | > Hi everyone, | > | > I'll chime in on this one. I want to clarify what is being asked, and add my two cents. | | Okay, I don't think there was a consensus on this issue, so I'

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-20 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/19/2011 12:02 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 02/15/2011 02:12 PM, Chris Frederick wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'll chime in on this one. I want to clarify what is being asked, and add >> my two cents. > > Okay, I don't think there was a

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-19 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 02/15/2011 02:12 PM, Chris Frederick wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'll chime in on this one. I want to clarify what is being asked, and add my > two cents. Okay, I don't think there was a consensus on this issue, so I'm sure to make someone unhappy. I think for now, we'll leave the status quo,

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-15 Thread klondike
El 15/02/11 16:52, Alex Efros escribió: > Hi!Quick Google and CVE searches shows there was many enough vulnerabilities > in all OSes (including Linux) IPv6 stack implementations. And, as we all > know, most of vulnerabilities will be found only after product become > popular and wide used, which do

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-15 Thread Chris Frederick
On 02/09/11 21:09, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Jan Kundrat asked on gentoo-dev why hardened removes ipv6 from its > profiles. To be honest, I see no good reason. I want to add it back. > Before I do, does anyone in the community know of any issues with > hardened + ipv6? I don't

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-15 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 02/15/2011 10:52 AM, Alex Efros wrote: > Hi! > > Quick Google and CVE searches shows there was many enough vulnerabilities > in all OSes (including Linux) IPv6 stack implementations. And, as we all > know, most of vulnerabilities will be found only after product become > popular and wide used,

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-15 Thread David Sommerseth
On 15/02/11 16:52, Alex Efros wrote: [...snip...] > > Keeping this in mind, I think it have sense to avoid enabling IPv6 by > default on hardened until IPv6 will be wide used/tested/hacked on > non-hardened systems for some time or until it become critical feature > required for normal operation o

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-15 Thread Matthew Thode
I run full dual stacked on my network at home just fine, ip6tables and filtering at the gateway work for me. As far as IPV6 specific vulnerabilities, I think that would be the price to pay (if we decide to go down this route). -- Matthew Thode On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:52, Alex Efros wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-15 Thread Alex Efros
Hi! On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 06:10:52PM -0500, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > >> I don't think there are any issues with it. The only argument I know of > >> is that it increases the attack surface for a feature that 0% + epsilon > >> of people use. > > Tests done by a colleague show that, right now, t

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-15 Thread Matthew Thode
I can also verify that I used ipv6 to get the cert with he.net (with them as the tunnel broker) for whatever that's worth. -- Matthew Thode On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 07:17, Tom Hendrikx wrote: > On 15/02/11 12:53, Ed W wrote: > > > >>> Tests done by a colleague show that, right now, the amount of

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-15 Thread Tom Hendrikx
On 15/02/11 12:53, Ed W wrote: > >>> Tests done by a colleague show that, right now, the amount of inbound >>> ipv6 >>> traffic on his systems is none but I can perfectly understand your >>> concerns >>> even if they should apply only to the network stack itself, as the >>> daemons >>> listening t

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-15 Thread Ed W
Tests done by a colleague show that, right now, the amount of inbound ipv6 traffic on his systems is none but I can perfectly understand your concerns even if they should apply only to the network stack itself, as the daemons listening to v6 should be the same that listen to v4, once configured

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-11 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 02/11/2011 03:32 AM, Darknight wrote: > 2011-02-10 21:03:01 Michael Orlitzky >> On 02/09/11 22:09, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Jan Kundrat asked on gentoo-dev why hardened removes ipv6 from its >>> profiles. To be honest, I see no good reason. I want to add it back. >>> B

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-11 Thread Darknight
2011-02-10 21:03:01 Michael Orlitzky > On 02/09/11 22:09, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > Jan Kundrat asked on gentoo-dev why hardened removes ipv6 from its > > profiles. To be honest, I see no good reason. I want to add it back. > > Before I do, does anyone in the community kn

Re: [gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-10 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 02/09/11 22:09, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Jan Kundrat asked on gentoo-dev why hardened removes ipv6 from its > profiles. To be honest, I see no good reason. I want to add it back. > Before I do, does anyone in the community know of any issues with > hardened + ipv6? I don't

[gentoo-hardened] Adding ipv6 USE flag by default

2011-02-09 Thread Anthony G. Basile
Hi everyone, Jan Kundrat asked on gentoo-dev why hardened removes ipv6 from its profiles. To be honest, I see no good reason. I want to add it back. Before I do, does anyone in the community know of any issues with hardened + ipv6? I don't know of any and all my servers have it enables. So, I'