Re: [gentoo-dev] news item: OpenRC 0.18 changes to localmount and netmount

2015-09-30 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 04:52:51 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 29/09/2015 16:29, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > On 28/09/15 06:58 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > >> Also, we are dropping the use of the -O switch for mount/umount > >> -a. This is being dropped because it is util-linux specific and > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread hasufell
On 09/30/2015 08:35 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: > On 9/29/15 3:32 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> The thing is that I think the libressl authors are shooting themselves >> in the feet. When upstreams do this sort of thing they think they're >> making the upgrade path easier by not changing their symbo

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread hasufell
On 09/30/2015 10:11 AM, hasufell wrote: > On 09/30/2015 08:35 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: >> On 9/29/15 3:32 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> The thing is that I think the libressl authors are shooting themselves >>> in the feet. When upstreams do this sort of thing they think they're >>> making the u

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:35 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: > On 9/29/15 3:32 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> The thing is that I think the libressl authors are shooting themselves >> in the feet. When upstreams do this sort of thing they think they're >> making the upgrade path easier by not changing t

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread hasufell
On 09/30/2015 01:22 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:35 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. > wrote: >> On 9/29/15 3:32 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> The thing is that I think the libressl authors are shooting themselves >>> in the feet. When upstreams do this sort of thing they think they're

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/30/2015 01:27 PM, hasufell wrote: > On 09/30/2015 01:22 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:35 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. >> wrote: >>> On 9/29/15 3:32 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: .. >> Perhaps the in-between solution would be for f

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread hasufell
On 09/30/2015 01:29 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 09/30/2015 01:27 PM, hasufell wrote: >> On 09/30/2015 01:22 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:35 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. >>> wrote: On 9/29/15 3:32 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > .. > >>> Perhaps the in-between soluti

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > The way I see it this is relevant to the discussion at hand. Admittedly it is a bit tangential, but it didn't seem worth forking the thread over. Certainly I'm not going to invent my own mailing list and post it there, and then po

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/30/2015 01:51 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand > wrote: >> >> The way I see it this is relevant to the discussion at hand. > > Admittedly it is a bit tangential, but it didn't seem worth > for

[gentoo-dev] tcltk herd empty

2015-09-30 Thread Justin (jlec)
Hi, is no active maintainer for tcltk in Gentoo anymore. Please stand up or try to remove tcltk support from your packages. Justin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > On 09/30/2015 01:51 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> I think it was fair to pause to see if somebody could come up with >> a better solution that allows co-existence, but absent that I >> don't see any benefit from keeping libressl ou

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread hasufell
On 09/30/2015 02:10 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 09/30/2015 01:51 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> I think it was fair to pause to see if somebody could come up with >> a better solution that allows co-existence, but absent that I >> don't see any benefit from keeping libressl out of the tr

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 15:22:40 +0200 hasufell wrote: > On 09/30/2015 02:10 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > On 09/30/2015 01:51 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > >> I think it was fair to pause to see if somebody could come up with > >> a better solution that allows co-existence, but absent that I

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/09/15 07:42 AM, hasufell wrote: > * libressl has to conflict with openssl Right now libressl exports many of the same symbols as openssl right? What if it didn't -- that is, we forced a symver map with a libressl prefix on all symbols? That

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/09/15 09:11 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Suppose apache uses libfoo and libbar. Libfoo switches to > libressl, and libbar sticks with openssl. That is going to > create a mess no matter what you do with isolating their > namespaces, because y

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 9/30/15 12:18 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/09/15 07:42 AM, hasufell wrote: * libressl has to conflict with openssl Right now libressl exports many of the same symbols as openssl right? What if it didn't -- that is, we forced a symver map

[gentoo-dev] Multilib team lead election / future

2015-09-30 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, multilibbers! It seems that one year past last election has passed. The team's not doing much lately either now that the major part of the work is done. This pretty much brings two possibilities: 1. electing a new lead, 2. or deciding that the project is no longer needed and discontinuing

[gentoo-dev] XFCE team lead election

2015-09-30 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, everyone. There's been a while since we re-manned the Xfce team. Since then, I wasn't able to get any reply from the old team members. And after all, the team lead election is way overdue, so I'd like to go along with other teams and start a new election. Let's start by setting up a two-we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multilib team lead election / future

2015-09-30 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-09-30, o godz. 21:36:51 Michał Górny napisał(a): > Hello, multilibbers! > > It seems that one year past last election has passed. The team's not > doing much lately either now that the major part of the work is done. > This pretty much brings two possibilities: > > 1. electing a new l

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > > Yes you could use symbol versioning, and you can do the side by side by > renaming the library but that's a real pita for us since we'd have to hack > build systems to link against the correct library name. Ths should have > been done

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreSSL import plan

2015-09-30 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 15:58:34 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Anthony G. Basile > wrote: > > @rich0. Just a side comment. You said somewhere that maybe apache will > > choose openssl and postfix libressl and then we'll be in trouble. No. The > > incompatibilit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multilib team lead election / future

2015-09-30 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/30/2015 04:01 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 30/09/15 03:57 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> Dnia 2015-09-30, o godz. 21:36:51 Michał Górny >> napisał(a): > >>> Hello, multilibbers! >>> >>> It seems that one year past last election has passed.