Re: [gentoo-dev] [OT] pkgcore bikeshed (was Portage team)

2014-01-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 13 January 2014 09:53:45 Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:15:37 +0700 "C. Bergström" wrote: > > At the end of the day we have one codebase which is > > "engineered" and another which has "evolved". > > Too broad generalization, too much assumption; both can be held as > meanin

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy

2014-01-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 17 January 2014 02:02:51 gro...@gentoo.org wrote: > Maybe, a good solution is to introduce a special arch, "noarch", for such > packages (similar to what's done in the rpm world). Then, if a package is > ~noarch, it is automatically considered ~arch for all arches. Similar for > stable. T

Add a KEYWORD representing any arch (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy)

2014-01-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 19-01-2014 a las 03:36 -0500, Mike Frysinger escribió: > On Friday 17 January 2014 02:02:51 gro...@gentoo.org wrote: > > Maybe, a good solution is to introduce a special arch, "noarch", for such > > packages (similar to what's done in the rpm world). Then, if a package is > > ~noarch, it is

[gentoo-dev] Re: Add a KEYWORD representing any arch

2014-01-19 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El dom, 19-01-2014 a las 03:36 -0500, Mike Frysinger escribió: >> you mean * ? this already works today (at least with portage): >> KEYWORDS="~*" >> KEYWORDS="*" Currently not allowed by policy: http://devmanual.gentoo.org/keywording/ind

Re: Add a KEYWORD representing any arch (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy)

2014-01-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 19 January 2014 04:28:33 Pacho Ramos wrote: > El dom, 19-01-2014 a las 03:36 -0500, Mike Frysinger escribió: > > On Friday 17 January 2014 02:02:51 gro...@gentoo.org wrote: > > > Maybe, a good solution is to introduce a special arch, "noarch", for > > > such packages (similar to what's do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: sys-apps/usleep

2014-01-19 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Dion Moult writes: > # Dion Moult (19 Jan 2014) > # Mask for removal in 30 days. usleep is actually provided part of > # app-admin/killproc (bug #467212) > sys-apps/usleep Veto. app-admin/killproc isn't even keyworded, yet. (Bug #494254). -- Amadeusz Żołnowski pgpv1V6GgHkQg.pgp Descriptio

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: sys-apps/usleep

2014-01-19 Thread Dion Moult
Reverted. Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote: >Dion Moult writes: > >> # Dion Moult (19 Jan 2014) >> # Mask for removal in 30 days. usleep is actually provided part of >> # app-admin/killproc (bug #467212) >> sys-apps/usleep > >Veto. app-admin/killproc isn't even keyworded, yet. (Bug #494254). > > >--

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Add a KEYWORD representing any arch

2014-01-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 19-01-2014 a las 10:46 +0100, Ulrich Mueller escribió: > > On Sun, 19 Jan 2014, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > El dom, 19-01-2014 a las 03:36 -0500, Mike Frysinger escribió: > >> you mean * ? this already works today (at least with portage): > >> KEYWORDS="~*" > >> KEYWORDS="*" >

[gentoo-dev] glibc-2.18 heading to ~arch in next ~week

2014-01-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
with glibc-2.17 in stable now and glibc-2.19 release in like ~2 weeks, glibc 2.18 is heading to ~arch. there's been very little reported breakage reported thus far ... i hope it's because there isn't any vs people aren't using it. so if people want to try it out ahead of time, that'd be nice.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy

2014-01-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
William Hubbs schrieb: > When you say "drop keywords" do you mean: > > 1) revert the old version back to ~arch or > 2) remove the old version. > > As a maintainer, I would rather do 2, because I do not want to backport > fixes to the old version. > > William > With 1) users would still be usin

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/ocaml/files: ocaml-4.01.0-pkg-config-ncurses.patch ocaml-3.11.2-Fix-ocamlopt-w.r.t.-binutils-2.21.patch

2014-01-19 Thread Alexis Ballier
please check with maintainers, ie in this case me, before jumping in and pushing, straight to stable, patches to the known to be fragile core part of a whole herd... reviews below On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:12:48 + (UTC) "Mark Wright (gienah)" wrote: > gienah 14/01/18 13:12:48 > > Added:

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights

2014-01-19 Thread hasufell
> either the QA lead or two members of the QA team can require the Infra team > to temporarily suspend commit access for the developer -1 to that part That sounds like you are able to make non-trivial decisions without the approval of the lead.

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.18 heading to ~arch in next ~week

2014-01-19 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 05:52:48AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > with glibc-2.17 in stable now and glibc-2.19 release in like ~2 weeks, glibc > 2.18 is heading to ~arch. there's been very little reported breakage > reported > thus far ... i hope it's because there isn't any vs people aren't us

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights

2014-01-19 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:02 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > This is nothing new; the qa team has requested that commit rights be > suspended before. I am just proposing that we actually add the parts of > the old patch to the glep that spell out when and how this can happen. > > Thoughts? Yes, thoug

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy

2014-01-19 Thread Christopher Head
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:44:42 +0100 Tom Wijsman wrote: > > If I don’t, why do I care if the package is a year old? I lose none > > of my time to use the old version, since it does all I want; > > This is under the assumption that the old version has no further > implications, which is a false ass

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Hosting daily gx86 squashfs images and deltas

2014-01-19 Thread Christopher Head
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:53:44 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2014-01-17, o godz. 10:18:58 > Alec Warner napisał(a): > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Michał Górny > > wrote: > > > > > Hello, all. > > > > > > I'm using squashfs to hold my Gentoo repositories on all of my > > > systems fo

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2014-01-19 23h59 UTC

2014-01-19 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2014-01-19 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-office/rabbit 2014-01-13 02:33:48 mrueg app-i18n/rskkserv 2014-01-13 02:35:05 mrueg dev-ruby/postgres

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy

2014-01-19 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 14:31:57 -0800 Christopher Head wrote: > Right, of course things can become incompatible—but the distro handles > that by either leaving old enough version of e.g. libraries around > that the latest stable versions of their reverse dependencies don’t > break, or, in exceptiona

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights

2014-01-19 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:22:07 -0700 Denis Dupeyron wrote: > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:02 PM, William Hubbs > wrote: > > This is nothing new; the qa team has requested that commit rights be > > suspended before. I am just proposing that we actually add the > > parts of the old patch to the glep t

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights

2014-01-19 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:46:01 +0100 hasufell wrote: > > either the QA lead or two members of the QA team can require the > > Infra team to temporarily suspend commit access for the developer > > -1 to that part > > That sounds like you are able to make non-trivial decisions without > the approva

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights

2014-01-19 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > It is more of a "Do we want QA to delegate this through ComRel or not?". Actually, no. What it is is a "Subject was thoroughly discussed in the past, and a decision was made." More than once, in fact. What basis do you have that would warrant

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights

2014-01-19 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 9:02 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I would like to bring back for discussion an old patch to glep 48 [1] > which was suggested by Jorge [2]. > > That patch evolved into this one [3], and in the council meeting back > then [4], parts of it made their way into glep 48,

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights

2014-01-19 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:22:39 -0700 Denis Dupeyron wrote: > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Tom Wijsman > wrote: > > It is more of a "Do we want QA to delegate this through ComRel or > > not?". > > Actually, no. What it is is a "Subject was thoroughly discussed in the > past, and a decision was

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights

2014-01-19 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 17:24:30 -0800 Alec Warner wrote: > We almost never suspend commit rights. I'm not really finding a > situation where this is necessary. Certainly not in the streamlined > fashion proposed here. Well, the QA team has been inactive for a while; so, I guess this might have been

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.18 heading to ~arch in next ~week

2014-01-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 19 January 2014 13:07:24 Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 05:52:48AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > with glibc-2.17 in stable now and glibc-2.19 release in like ~2 weeks, > > glibc 2.18 is heading to ~arch. there's been very little reported > > breakage reported thus f

[gentoo-dev] ekeyword written in python from scratch

2014-01-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
i finally got annoyed with the perl version (and its output and bugs and limitations) and wrote a new version. it's fairly modular (and has pretty good unittest coverage!?), so if we wanted to look at integrating it into portage or other tools, that should be pretty easy now. at any rate, if o

[gentoo-dev] updated s390 VMs

2014-01-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
the awesome folks at Marist College in conjunction with the Linux Foundation have upgraded our s390 VMs to newer hardware. faster/more CPUs, more RAM, and more disk space. it's at the point where we aren't hurting to simply build packages. so if devs are interested in ssh access, feel free to

[gentoo-dev] new profiles.desc header documenting profile/keyword policy

2014-01-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
this has all been fairly ad-hoc in the past, so formalize it in the one place that impacts everyone -- profiles.desc. -mike ### # This is a list of valid profiles for each architecture. This file is used by # repoman when