[gentoo-dev] Re: RANT: Upgrade icu and KDE at once

2013-05-02 Thread Duncan
Tom Wijsman posted on Thu, 02 May 2013 07:09:10 +0200 as excerpted: > Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > >> After some early issues with "too much magic" re preserved-libs > > Why is it magic? It is well explained what it does (eg. man make.conf). > >> I originally would rather let the upgr

[gentoo-dev] gnome-games.eclass: Eclass for installing all gnome-games

2013-05-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
gnome-games was splitted in separate packages per game and, then, we need an eclass to also set proper settings inherited from gnome2 and games eclasses. This should also solve: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432848 eclass and ebuild (games-puzzle/five-or-more) to try attached # Copyright

[gentoo-dev] [PATCHES] Sub-phase functions in autotools-utils & autotools-multilib

2013-05-02 Thread Michał Górny
Hi, I've thought for a bit and got the conclusion that the best solution for quite an irritating syntax of autotools-multilib is to use sub-phase functions. To increase consistency between ebuilds, the same phases can be used in autotools-utils directly. The idea is that current ebuild looking li

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] Introduce autotools_* sub-phase functions to make overriding easier.

2013-05-02 Thread Michał Górny
More details in the mail preceding the patch. --- gx86/eclass/autotools-multilib.eclass | 47 -- gx86/eclass/autotools-utils.eclass| 157 +- 2 files changed, 158 insertions(+), 46 deletions(-) diff --git a/gx86/eclass/autotools-multilib.eclass b/gx86/

Re: [gentoo-dev] gnome-games.eclass: Eclass for installing all gnome-games

2013-05-02 Thread hasufell
On 05/02/2013 12:41 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > gnome-games was splitted in separate packages per game and, then, we > need an eclass to also set proper settings inherited from gnome2 and > games eclasses. This should also solve: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432848 > > eclass and ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] gnome-games.eclass: Eclass for installing all gnome-games

2013-05-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 02-05-2013 a las 14:34 +0200, hasufell escribió: > On 05/02/2013 12:41 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > gnome-games was splitted in separate packages per game and, then, we > > need an eclass to also set proper settings inherited from gnome2 and > > games eclasses. This should also solve: > > htt

Re: [gentoo-dev] gnome-games.eclass: Eclass for installing all gnome-games

2013-05-02 Thread hasufell
On 05/02/2013 03:40 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El jue, 02-05-2013 a las 14:34 +0200, hasufell escribió: >> On 05/02/2013 12:41 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: >>> gnome-games was splitted in separate packages per game and, then, we >>> need an eclass to also set proper settings inherited from gnome2 and >>> g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-05-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 1 May 2013 19:40:06 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > On Wed, 1 May 2013 08:57:35 +0200 > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Ryan Hill wrote: > > > Then the person implementing the code for Paludis is either a > > > monkey or a robot*. Anyone capable of reasoning could puzzle out

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-05-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Er, we are. Following the spec is not a mistake. If there's a mistake, > it was made by the Council when they approved the wording. Both Portage and Paludis are following the spec. The spec isn't incorrect, it just doesn't fully describe t

Re: [gentoo-dev] gnome-games.eclass: Eclass for installing all gnome-games

2013-05-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 02-05-2013 a las 15:54 +0200, hasufell escribió: > On 05/02/2013 03:40 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 02-05-2013 a las 14:34 +0200, hasufell escribió: > >> On 05/02/2013 12:41 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>> gnome-games was splitted in separate packages per game and, then, we > >>> need an

Re: [gentoo-dev] gnome-games.eclass: Eclass for installing all gnome-games

2013-05-02 Thread hasufell
On 05/02/2013 05:12 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El jue, 02-05-2013 a las 15:54 +0200, hasufell escribió: >> On 05/02/2013 03:40 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: >>> El jue, 02-05-2013 a las 14:34 +0200, hasufell escribió: On 05/02/2013 12:41 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > gnome-games was splitted in separate

Re: [gentoo-dev] gnome-games.eclass: Eclass for installing all gnome-games

2013-05-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 02-05-2013 a las 17:16 +0200, hasufell escribió: > On 05/02/2013 05:12 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 02-05-2013 a las 15:54 +0200, hasufell escribió: > >> On 05/02/2013 03:40 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>> El jue, 02-05-2013 a las 14:34 +0200, hasufell escribió: > On 05/02/2013 12:4

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib-minimal.eclass: allow relative paths to $S for DOCS variable wrt #468092

2013-05-02 Thread hasufell
currently default_src_install is carried out in $BUILD_DIR and not in $S that means people have to do something like this: DOCS=( "${S}"/ChangeLog{,.libffi,.libgcj,.v1} "${S}"/README ) The attached patch is a bit ugly, but I don't see a better way. It will allow: DOCS=( ChangeLog{,.libffi,.libgcj

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib-minimal.eclass: allow relative paths to $S for DOCS variable wrt #468092

2013-05-02 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 02 May 2013 18:24:19 +0200 hasufell wrote: > currently default_src_install is carried out in $BUILD_DIR and not in $S > > that means people have to do something like this: > DOCS=( "${S}"/ChangeLog{,.libffi,.libgcj,.v1} "${S}"/README ) > > The attached patch is a bit ugly, but I don't s

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib-minimal.eclass: allow relative paths to $S for DOCS variable wrt #468092

2013-05-02 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/02/2013 06:31 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 02 May 2013 18:24:19 +0200 hasufell > wrote: > >> currently default_src_install is carried out in $BUILD_DIR and >> not in $S >> >> that means people have to do something like this: DOCS=( >> "${

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib-minimal.eclass: allow relative paths to $S for DOCS variable wrt #468092

2013-05-02 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Otherwise I could just use a second variable and unset DOCS. > Hm no, that would suck too, cause it will jump into the the first if clause. I'll probably inline it all then. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 04:26:06PM +1200, Kent Fredric wrote: > - its a consistent approach that is bootloader agnostic > - it doesn't require you to understand your bootloaders scripting system to > add it to the init= line > - its "no brains required, and hard to mess up" Why should we do somet

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-02 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 04:26:06PM +1200, Kent Fredric wrote: >> bootloader configuration under grub1 for instance, was quite >> straight-forward. Now with grub-2, its quite convoluted, for me at least. > > I haven't looked at grub2 yet, but I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-02 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > If you manually write your own configuration for GRUB2, it is no more > convoluted than for GRUB Legacy. > > If you use grub-mkconfig to generate a configuration file, you can > append the init option by setting > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/us

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-02 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Fabio Erculiani schrieb: > Not all the Gentoo users are as skilled as you (a developer). Having a > programmatic, bootloader agnostic way to swap /sbin/init is useful for > the reasons I explained. Yet I haven't read any solid reason not to do > that. Another bootloader agnostic way is to pass ini

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > Not all the Gentoo users are as skilled as you (a developer). Having a > programmatic, bootloader agnostic way to swap /sbin/init is useful for > the reasons I explained. Yet I haven't read any solid reason not to do > that. Well, there is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-02 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> >> If you manually write your own configuration for GRUB2, it is no more >> convoluted than for GRUB Legacy. >> >> If you use grub-mkconfig to generate a configuration file, you can >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 03:39:25PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> > >> If you manually write your own configuration for GRUB2, it is no more > >> convoluted than for GRUB Legacy. > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-02 Thread Kent Fredric
On 3 May 2013 07:01, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > > > If it's that simple, why on earth do we have all the eselect modules we > have!? > > Hm, upon reading that list and seeing what they do, it raises another argument in favour of eselect: If there needs to be more things changed prior to reboot tha

[gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-02 Thread Duncan
Mike Gilbert posted on Thu, 02 May 2013 14:13:30 -0400 as excerpted: > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:05 PM, William Hubbs > wrote: >> On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 04:26:06PM +1200, Kent Fredric wrote: >>> bootloader configuration under grub1 for instance, was quite >>> straight-forward. Now with grub-2, it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 08:27:36AM +1200, Kent Fredric wrote: > On 3 May 2013 07:01, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > > > > > > > If it's that simple, why on earth do we have all the eselect modules we > > have!? > > > > > Hm, upon reading that list and seeing what they do, it raises another > argument i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-02 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
William Hubbs schrieb: > If you use this symlink approach to actually switch your init to point > to systemd, then you boot and things don't work, you are hosed. Well, not fully hosed. You could still edit your kernel command line from the boot loader pointing init=.. to the actual location and

[gentoo-dev] Packages using -Werror

2013-05-02 Thread Ryan Hill
Most of the bugs filed on the gcc 4.8 tracker so far have been caused by packages being built with -Werror. I just noticed one package where the Makefile was being patched to remove -g from CXXFLAGS but -Werror on the same line was left in. Just in case people weren't aware, building with -Werror

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages using -Werror

2013-05-02 Thread Peter Stuge
Ryan Hill wrote: > If you're fixing one of these bugs by silencing the warning be sure > to remove the flag also. How about sending the fix upstream instead? Thanks, from an upstream //Peter pgpHGm3ZpE6z3.pgp Description: PGP signature