# Ulrich Müller (25 Apr 2013)
# Dependency of kernel.eclass which was obsoleted in 2004,
# apparantly no uses besides Gentoo specific kernel patching,
# license issues. Masked for removal in 30 days, bug #444314.
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Dear all,
I noticed, that there is a global useflag 'xsl', with one of those
bleh-descriptions "Enables XSL support"
There is exactly one user of it: php -- to pull in libxslt.
Now there is also the local useflag xslt (used by three other packages)
for enabling xslt support (by pulling in libxsl
The correct one should be xslt and that's it..
Le jeudi 25 avril 2013 à 10:45 +0200, René Neumann a écrit :
> Dear all,
>
> I noticed, that there is a global useflag 'xsl', with one of those
> bleh-descriptions "Enables XSL support"
>
> There is exactly one user of it: php -- to pull in libxslt.
>
> Now there is also the local useflag xslt (
On 25/04/13 10:45, René Neumann wrote:
> There is exactly one user of it: php -- to pull in libxslt.
>
> * Should php remain 'xsl' or go to 'xslt'?
The reason for using xsl is that PHP had two xsl(t) extensions: one
called xslt and one called xsl. Before we had USE flags for both of
these to dis
René Neumann wrote:
> * Is there a real difference between them? As far as I can see XSL
> is a superset of XSLT, but it's somewhat fuzzy.
XSL is the Extensible Stylesheet Language, one way to think of this
is as the file format. XSL is a subset of XML.
XSLT means XSL Transform, which is the proc
Hey, all!
Just one question: why do you all talking about IUSE=+oldnet, but not
REQUIRED_USE="^^ ( net oldnet )" for example?
24.04.2013 23:16, William Hubbs пишет:
> All,
>
> it has been suggested that gentoo's oldnet scripts be split out into
> their own package separate from OpenRC so that
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
wrote:
> Hey, all!
>
> Just one question: why do you all talking about IUSE=+oldnet, but not
> REQUIRED_USE="^^ ( net oldnet )" for example?
It it isn't necessary for a system to have support for either oldnet
or newnet. Sure, it is rar
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
> wrote:
> > Hey, all!
> >
> > Just one question: why do you all talking about IUSE=+oldnet, but not
> > REQUIRED_USE="^^ ( net oldnet )" for example?
>
> It it isn't necessary for
Carlos Silva wrote:
> Care to explain how will the installation be done if "networking"
> isn't requirement?
I build a stage4 tarball on a build host, and unpack that tarball
onto the media that I want to run the target system on.
That's just one way. The point is that nothing fundamentally requi
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Carlos Silva wrote:
> > Care to explain how will the installation be done if "networking"
> > isn't requirement?
>
> I build a stage4 tarball on a build host, and unpack that tarball
> onto the media that I want to run the target system on.
>
Carlos Silva wrote:
> > > Care to explain how will the installation be done if "networking"
> > > isn't requirement?
> >
> > I build a stage4 tarball on a build host, and unpack that tarball
> > onto the media that I want to run the target system on.
>
> And from where comes this build host exactl
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 17:13:56 +
Carlos Silva wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Rich Freeman
> wrote:
>
> > It it isn't necessary for a system to have support for either
> > oldnet or newnet. Sure, it is rare these days, but networking
> > support should be a default, not a requiremen
On Wednesday 24 April 2013 19:17:01 William Hubbs wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 06:34:46PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:16:51PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
> > > Considering our default configuration ships sshd (an argument we don't
> > > need to rehash here), it seems
I have just one question
When "gentoo-oldscripts" is pulled from openrc
WHAT will be the default network configuration method?
Without the "standard" net scripts, many systems will break.
What is being given for network configuration?
NetworkManager? (yuck!)
--
G.Wolfe Woodbury
redwo...@g
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
> I have just one question
>
> When "gentoo-oldscripts" is pulled from openrc
>
> WHAT will be the default network configuration method?
"gentoo-oldscripts"
The intent isn't to remove these scripts (unless for some reason you
don't wan
On Thursday 25 April 2013 14:27:39 G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
> When "gentoo-oldscripts" is pulled from openrc
>
> WHAT will be the default network configuration method?
the existing defaults will remain the same. we're just debating how to
guarantee that.
-mike
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On 04/24/13 21:17, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:00:17PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:16:06 -0500
>> William Hubbs wrote:
>>
>>> This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.* scripts
>>> will no longer be included. I am going to call th
i've opened http://bugs.gentoo.org/467256 to track glibc-2.16 stabilization.
with the 2.18 release process starting up in a month or so, we need to make
room for it now that 2.17 is in ~arch. that means 2.16 going into arch since
it isn't realistically seeing anymore testing.
-mike
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 01:30:25PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:16:51PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 1:54 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > > if we keep a dependency for a while, even behind something like
> > > IUSE="+oldnet", when we drop it, peop
Carlos Silva posted on Thu, 25 Apr 2013 17:13:56 + as excerpted:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>
>> It it isn't necessary for a system to have support for either oldnet or
>> newnet. Sure, it is rare these days, but networking support should be
>> a default, not a r
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
Maybe I was miss understood here. I know that there are tons of ways to
have gentoo *running* in a box without it having network connection. The
thing is that makes like 0.01% of the total installs. It's not a default
ins
On Thursday 25 April 2013 15:09:28 viv...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 04/24/13 21:17, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:00:17PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> >> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:16:06 -0500 William Hubbs wrote:
> >>> This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.* s
Carlos Silva wrote:
> John Doe
..runs Windows.
> is it a safe default meaning that 99% or more of the people will
> use or *need* it?
Nobody suggested that networking should be disabled or excluded by default.
//Peter
I *really* hate those virtual dependencies that don't actually satisfy
a real dependency, and require manual choice-specific intervention by
the user anyway. For example, packages that build external kernel
modules tend to depend on virtual/kernel-sources. However, this
dependency doesn't make sure
Hi all,
I'm the one that had asked WilliamH about splitting out OldNet from
OpenRC, so I figured rather than respond to every single part of this
thread, I wanted to give a general response.
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