Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos, virtuals, rattling cages

2013-02-25 Thread Eray Aslan
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:43:06PM -0800, Alec Warner wrote: > This is incorrect, or at least, was incorrect last time I looked > (circa...uhh..2009?) > > They work 'ok' together. Heimdal clients could talk to MIT servers at > least. and vice-versa. > Of course, there were quirks, and incompatib

[gentoo-dev] Re: kerberos, virtuals, rattling cages

2013-02-25 Thread Duncan
Eray Aslan posted on Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:02:49 +0200 as excerpted: >> > I don't think samba will support MIT, since it's kinda windows >> > focused. > > Ugh, no. MIT is not windows focused ... But samba is... As far as the thread in general goes, the question arises, if you're running both s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: kerberos, virtuals, rattling cages

2013-02-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/02/2013 13:03, Duncan wrote: > Eray Aslan posted on Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:02:49 +0200 as excerpted: > I don't think samba will support MIT, since it's kinda windows focused. >> >> Ugh, no. MIT is not windows focused > > ... But samba is... > > > As far as the thread in general go

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: kerberos, virtuals, rattling cages

2013-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Linux client invariably whinge at length about how the performance of > samba sucks. I suspect there is more at issue than just performance. I run both samba and nfs (though without kerberos), and have the windows issues you mentioned, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos, virtuals, rattling cages

2013-02-25 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Matthew Thode wrote: > On 02/24/13 20:25, Michael Mol wrote: >> (I really don't have time to actively participate on this list right >> now, but I believe that if I bring it up on b.g.o, I'll be directed >> here, so...) >> >> So I'm playing with net-fs/samba-4.0.3,

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Piotr Szymaniak
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:03:01PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > I'm going to be unmasking 4.7.2 later this week. There are still 47 open bugs > blocking the 4.7 tracker, so if any are yours now would be a good time > to take a look at them. > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/390247 There's an ugly bug [1]

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 21:58:08 +0100 Piotr Szymaniak wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:03:01PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > I'm going to be unmasking 4.7.2 later this week. There are still > > 47 open bugs blocking the 4.7 tracker, so if any are yours now > > would be a good time to take a look a

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > Though people that use -ffast-math / -fLTO / -fuse-linker-plugin should > be on their own, thus I drop -ffast-math because it breaks my browser; > but that doesn't mean that those ricer flags should stop stabilization. If we're talking about f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: kerberos, virtuals, rattling cages

2013-02-25 Thread Michael Mol
On 02/25/2013 06:03 AM, Duncan wrote: > Eray Aslan posted on Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:02:49 +0200 as excerpted: > I don't think samba will support MIT, since it's kinda windows focused. >> >> Ugh, no. MIT is not windows focused > > ... But samba is... Actually, no. That's why I've been so

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 25/02/2013 22:32, Rich Freeman wrote: > That isn't the same as saying that we can just break it in cases where > it actually is appropriate. Calculating scroll bar movement is > exactly the sort of thing that this flag was actually designed for - > you don't care if it is off by 1/100th of a pi

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 25/02/2013 22:32, Rich Freeman wrote: >> That isn't the same as saying that we can just break it in cases where >> it actually is appropriate. Calculating scroll bar movement is >> exactly the sort of thing that this flag was actuall

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 25/02/2013 22:57, Rich Freeman wrote: > A sword that cuts two ways - judging understanding by an email is a > dubious proposition, otherwise we wouldn't need job interviews. :) > It is just as likely that we're simply miscommunicating. Did you not just say there: "Calculating scroll bar movem

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Of course dealing with flags _per functions_ is not possible, as flags > apply at the very least to a translation unit... A translation unit can contain a single function, or a bunch of functions that you want to apply the flag to. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Luca Barbato
On 25/02/13 22:32, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> Though people that use -ffast-math / -fLTO / -fuse-linker-plugin should >> be on their own, thus I drop -ffast-math because it breaks my browser; >> but that doesn't mean that those ricer flags should s

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Luca Barbato
On 25/02/13 23:21, Rich Freeman wrote: > My point was just that: > 1. No, the fact that entire packages fail to build/operate using > -ffast-math is not a valid bug. >From your email the message was the opposite, maybe a not got lost? > 2. If individual packages DO carefully use -ffast-math and

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 25/02/2013 23:21, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò > wrote: >> Of course dealing with flags _per functions_ is not possible, as flags >> apply at the very least to a translation unit... > > A translation unit can contain a single function, or a bunch of

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Luca Barbato wrote: > On 25/02/13 23:21, Rich Freeman wrote: >> My point was just that: >> 1. No, the fact that entire packages fail to build/operate using >> -ffast-math is not a valid bug. > > From your email the message was the opposite, maybe a not got lost?

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > No, an example of _how building a whole package with -ffast-math_ was > brought up, and you turned it into "something that it should apply to" > (which is false, and stupid to say). Perhaps this is part of the issue then. I didn't not

Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos, virtuals, rattling cages

2013-02-25 Thread Michael Mol
On 02/25/2013 12:48 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Matthew Thode > wrote: >> On 02/24/13 20:25, Michael Mol wrote: >>> (I really don't have time to actively participate on this list right >>> now, but I believe that if I bring it up on b.g.o, I'll be directed >>> here, s

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 21:58:08 +0100 Piotr Szymaniak wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:03:01PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > I'm going to be unmasking 4.7.2 later this week. There are still 47 open > > bugs blocking the 4.7 tracker, so if any are yours now would be a good time > > to take a look a

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:03:01 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > I'm going to be unmasking 4.7.2 later this week. There are still 47 open bugs > blocking the 4.7 tracker, so if any are yours now would be a good time > to take a look at them. > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/390247 Forgot to say, now would als

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:03:01 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > >> I'm going to be unmasking 4.7.2 later this week. There are still 47 open >> bugs >> blocking the 4.7 tracker, so if any are yours now would be a good time >> to take a look at them. >>

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:54:01 -0500 as excerpted: > I didn't not read that email SIGFPE. Talk about -ffastma^h^hfinger errors... -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master."