Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:27:30 -0300 Alexis Ballier wrote: > > To be honest, I don't know if there's other way to hide USE flags than > > using USE_EXPAND_HIDDEN. If we want to use that, we'd have to split > > the flags per-arch, i.e. have: > > > > MULTILIB_AMD64="abi1 abi2 abi3" > > MULTILIB_

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilization candidates rss feed & html pages

2013-01-23 Thread Federico "fox" Scrinzi
> If the euscan guys want to integrate the feature, nice. > If not, lets just stick with this script. It is simple enough that even > ruby n00bs like me can understand what it does :P I'm a ruby noob and seems pretty simple, I don't think that porting it to python would be a huge effort. Moreover

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilization candidates rss feed & html pages

2013-01-23 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote: > Second reason, I believe it is getting or already has deployment on > gentoo infra servers. euscan is not getting implemented on infra server because noone requested it. Again, whoever is responsible for any service and wants it implemented i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-23 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:24:26 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:27:30 -0300 > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > To be honest, I don't know if there's other way to hide USE flags > > > than using USE_EXPAND_HIDDEN. If we want to use that, we'd have > > > to split the flags per-arch,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-23 Thread Fabio Erculiani
I hope this is going to be binary package manager friendly. In Sabayon for instance, kernel sources are not even installed and at the same time, /proc/config.gz may not even be available. There were some corner cases in where pkg_setup failed because this kernel config check stuff was trying to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > I hope this is going to be binary package manager friendly. > In Sabayon for instance, kernel sources are not even installed and at > the same time, /proc/config.gz may not even be available. > There were some corner cases in where pkg_setu

[gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
please review this news item, seems we need one after all Title: Upgrading udev from 171 (or older) to 197 Author: Samuli Suominen Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2013-01-23 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: http://bugs.gentoo.org/453494 [2] http://www.freedesktop.org/wik

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > please review this news item, seems we need one after all +1, this would have been useful.

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Markos Chandras
On 23 January 2013 13:32, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> please review this news item, seems we need one after all > > +1, this would have been useful. > Looks ok but as the news item says, it's a bit too late ... -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/01/13 15:34, Markos Chandras wrote: On 23 January 2013 13:32, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all +1, this would have been useful. Looks ok but as the news item says, it's a bit too

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > not for everyone, not everyone upgrades this often, and it's usually the > servers that get updated last Agreed, but best to get this out ASAP. Only question - display-if-installed is set to <. Would it make sense to make it <198 ins

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Philip Webb
130123 Samuli Suominen wrote: > please review this news item, seems we need one after all ... > - The need of CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y in the kernel; need to verify the fstype for > possible /dev line in /etc/fstab is devtmpfs (and not, for example, tmpfs) ... I have 2 such lines : tmpfs

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 23/01/2013 15:02, Philip Webb wrote: >> > - The need of CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y in the kernel; need to verify the fstype >> > for >> > possible /dev line in /etc/fstab is devtmpfs (and not, for example, >> > tmpfs) > ... > > I have 2 such lines : > > tmpfs /tmp

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/01/13 15:44, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: not for everyone, not everyone upgrades this often, and it's usually the servers that get updated last Agreed, but best to get this out ASAP. Only question - display-if-installed is set to <.

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > None are involved. The second column would read /dev if it was involved. The news item doesn't mention what to do if there is no line to mount /dev. I don't see one in my fstab, and I simply followed the handbook (as it was written ~

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 23/01/2013 16:04, Rich Freeman wrote: > System seems to work fine, so I'm not sure how essential that line is. > The fact that I'm using an initramfs might also have an effect. AFAICT if you do NOT have a /dev entry you're the best off because the init script will mount it for you. I think th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:03:56 -0300 Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:24:26 +0100 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:27:30 -0300 > > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > > > To be honest, I don't know if there's other way to hide USE flags > > > > than using USE_EXPAND_HI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:27:17 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:03:56 -0300 > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:24:26 +0100 > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:27:30 -0300 > > > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > > > > > To be honest, I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Weber
Hi, On 01/23/2013 04:04 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > System seems to work fine, so I'm not sure how essential that line is. > The fact that I'm using an initramfs might also have an effect. I'd strongly suggest using CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y. and stop worring about udev/openrc. udev/openrc stopped

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-23 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
В письме от 23 января 2013 08:03:56 пользователь Alexis Ballier написал: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:24:26 +0100 > > Michał Górny wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:27:30 -0300 > > > > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > To be honest, I don't know if there's other way to hide USE flags > > > > than using

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Felix Kuperjans
Samuli Suominen wrote: > please review this news item, seems we need one after all Hello Samuli, /dev/root is no longer available in this udev version, so people who put this in their /etc/fstab might end up with an unbootable system. I suggest including in the news item, that /dev/root must be

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Felix Kuperjans wrote: > Samuli Suominen wrote: >> please review this news item, seems we need one after all > > Hello Samuli, > > /dev/root is no longer available in this udev version, so people who put > this in their /etc/fstab might end up with an unbootable sy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-23 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:36:22 +0400 Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > В письме от 23 января 2013 08:03:56 пользователь Alexis Ballier > написал: > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:24:26 +0100 > > > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:27:30 -0300 > > > > > > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > > To be

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > fstab is not consulted for mounting the root filesystem, so it doesn't > really matter what you have in there. Either the kernel mounts it > based on the kernel command line, or your initramfs mounts it based on > whatever your /init programs

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> fstab is not consulted for mounting the root filesystem, so it doesn't >> really matter what you have in there. Either the kernel mounts it >> based on the kernel command line, or your i

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Felix Kuperjans
Mike Gilbert: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Felix Kuperjans > wrote: >> Samuli Suominen wrote: >>> please review this news item, seems we need one after all >> Hello Samuli, >> >> /dev/root is no longer available in this udev version, so people who put >> this in their /etc/fstab might end up

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > Ah, good to know. I'm used to dealing with my little homegrown > initramfs, where I parse root from the kernel command line in /init. > genkernel does the same thing. Yeah, dracut generally "does the right thing" but that generally assumes

[gentoo-dev] Subslots progress in main tree

2013-01-23 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Hi guys, do we have some scans that report libraries converted to subslots and lists their rdeps checked if they are updated accordingly? It might be pretty usefull to actually see where the deps needed to be updated so we can take use of this feature where possible (also its a hint for lib mainta

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 15:14 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: > please review this news item, seems we need one after all Why don't you drop "~" from: CONFIG_CHECK="~DEVTMPFS" to ensure people really changes it in their kernel and prevent breakage? signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-23 Thread Fabio Erculiani
I think that the problem is that it is trying to be smart when it's not really possible (unless you want to cover all the corner cases, which is a pain). -- Fabio Erculiani

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/01/13 23:21, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 15:14 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Why don't you drop "~" from: CONFIG_CHECK="~DEVTMPFS" to ensure people really changes it in their kernel and prevent breakag

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Christopher Head
Are you sure? I have CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT disabled, latest stable udev (197-r3) and openrc (0.11.8), and no /dev line in my fstab, yet my /dev is still a devtmpfs with a proper set of device nodes. Chris On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:03:15 +0100 Michael Weber wrote: > Hi, > > On 01/23/2013 04:04 PM,

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 23:45 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: > On 23/01/13 23:21, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 15:14 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: > >> please review this news item, seems we need one after all > > > > Why don't you drop "~" from: > > CONFIG_CHECK="

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] gst-plugins10.eclass support for multiple plugin build directory

2013-01-23 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Hi all, this patch adds support for building plugins in different directory. This has been a long TODO item but there is now a need for it since the amrnb and amrwb codecs both depend on the same lib and I see no reason to not have them under the same ebuild. I am attaching the sample ebuild wit

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Francesco Riosa
2013/1/23 Pacho Ramos > El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 23:45 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: > > On 23/01/13 23:21, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 15:14 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: > > >> please review this news item, seems we need one after all > > > > > > Why don't you drop "

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-23 Thread Francesco Riosa
2013/1/23 Fabio Erculiani > I think that the problem is that it is trying to be smart when it's > not really possible (unless you want to cover all the corner cases, > which is a pain). > > > Hum, but if we could not be smart enough we can at least try to be very annoying. what about a delay of s

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Initial proof-of-concept for explicit x86 multilib flags

2013-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, Following my earlier mail, I'm sending two patches which describe how I see the potential of introducing explicit multilib flags. The idea is that each arch has its own ABI_ USE_EXPAND, specifying the multilib ABIs for choice. For example, x86 has ABI_X86="32 64". All of those USE_EXPANDs

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/2] Add multilib flags for x86.

2013-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
64- and 32-bit libs involved. No x32 yet since I have no idea about it. --- gx86/profiles/arch/amd64/make.defaults | 4 gx86/profiles/arch/amd64/use.force | 4 gx86/profiles/arch/amd64/use.mask | 5 + gx86/profiles/base/make.defaults | 4 ++-- gx86/profiles/base/use.ma

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/2] Use new multilib flags in autotools-multilib.

2013-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
This is mostly a proof-of-concept. If approved, I will work on moving the code into a separate eclass, possibly named 'multilib-build' ;). --- gx86/eclass/autotools-multilib.eclass | 24 +--- 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/gx86/eclass/autotools-m

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/2] Use new multilib flags in autotools-multilib.

2013-01-23 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:23:57 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > This is mostly a proof-of-concept. If approved, I will work on moving > the code into a separate eclass, possibly named 'multilib-build' ;). > --- > gx86/eclass/autotools-multilib.eclass | 24 +--- > 1 file changed, 21

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-23 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:32:40PM +, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > I hope this is going to be binary package manager friendly. > In Sabayon for instance, kernel sources are not even installed and at > the same time, /proc/config.gz may not even be available. > There were some corner cases in where

[gentoo-dev] Re: news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread »Q«
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:49:09 -0800 Christopher Head wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:03:15 +0100 > Michael Weber wrote: > > > On 01/23/2013 04:04 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > System seems to work fine, so I'm not sure how essential that line > > > is. The fact that I'm using an initramfs migh

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/01/13 21:06, Felix Kuperjans wrote: Mike Gilbert: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Felix Kuperjans wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Hello Samuli, /dev/root is no longer available in this udev version, so people who put this in the

[gentoo-dev] Re: news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Duncan
Samuli Suominen posted on Thu, 24 Jan 2013 04:04:19 +0200 as excerpted: > On 23/01/13 21:06, Felix Kuperjans wrote: >>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Felix Kuperjans >>> wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: > please review this news item /dev/root is no longer available in this ude

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: > Samuli Suominen posted on Thu, 24 Jan 2013 04:04:19 +0200 as excerpted: > >> > On 23/01/13 21:06, Felix Kuperjans wrote: >>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Felix Kuperjans >>> wrote: > Samuli Suominen wrote: >> > please review this news item >