Re: [gentoo-dev] Global Systemd USE Flag

2012-08-13 Thread Luca Barbato
On 8/12/12 6:10 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: The gods heard your call, and have replied: Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case you haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward to the day when we can drop that support entirely. -- Lennart [1] [1] http://lists.fre

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-13 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Can we have xmlschema instead? You know so that things like broken email > addresses in can be caught... https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384457 IMO RELAX NG (or Schematron) would be much better than XML Schema. Cheers, Dirkj

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-13 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le vendredi 10 août 2012 à 16:21 +0200, Jeroen Roovers a écrit : > On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:03:23 +0200 > Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > > > Since you are proposing this, a side question is: > > Why should we write SRC_URI in ebuilds if that info is now available > > in metadata.xml ? (granted that

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-13 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 13/08/2012 03:25, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > IMO RELAX NG (or Schematron) would be much better than XML Schema. They are generally idempotent enough that you don't have to worry about which one you choose... Relax NG works for me, I would have to convert them to rnc anyway to load into emacs's nx

[gentoo-dev] Stage's missing /run directory despite getting created by baselayout. Some code is deleting random directories?

2012-08-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
Any insight for bug 421839 would be awesome. I've got no idea on how the autobuilds work Stages are getting built wrong and some two dozen apps misbehave due to it How hard can it be to add new directories? - Samuli

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stage's missing /run directory despite getting created by baselayout. Some code is deleting random directories?

2012-08-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 13.08.2012 19:10, Samuli Suominen wrote: Any insight for bug 421839 would be awesome. I've got no idea on how the autobuilds work Stages are getting built wrong and some two dozen apps misbehave due to it How hard can it be to add new directories? - Samuli /run is being created from both

[gentoo-dev] FYI: multilib-strict no longer in FEATURES of targets/developer/make.defaults (pending on bug 424423)

2012-08-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/profiles/targets/developer/make.defaults?r1=1.11&r2=1.12 For example (these are all where they belong): $ file /usr/lib/udisks2/udisksd /usr/lib/udisks2/udisksd: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses

[gentoo-dev] The Undertakers Project is looking for new members

2012-08-13 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dear Gentoo Community, Many of you many not be aware of the Undertakers project[1]. Despite what the name suggests, were are here to make sure you and the project are still active. We poke inactive developers from time to time to ensure they are sti

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: multilib-strict no longer in FEATURES of targets/developer/make.defaults (pending on bug 424423)

2012-08-13 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 13/08/2012 09:55, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > I propably won't be working on this much, so help would be appericiated > for restoring working multilib-strict check. Beside the fact that these would probably have looked better in /usr/libexec — there used to be a whitelist of stuff that can be i

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: multilib-strict no longer in FEATURES of targets/developer/make.defaults (pending on bug 424423)

2012-08-13 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/13/2012 12:55 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/profiles/targets/developer/make.defaults?r1=1.11&r2=1.12 > > > For example (these are all where they belong): I know it seems silly but there ar

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: multilib-strict no longer in FEATURES of targets/developer/make.defaults (pending on bug 424423)

2012-08-13 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 11:14 -0700, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Beside the fact that these would probably have looked better in > /usr/libexec See Kay Sievers's comment at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51617 : "/usr/lib// is a directory like /usr/libexec/ or even /bin. It shares abs

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Undertakers Project is looking for new members

2012-08-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: > We poke inactive developers from time to time to > ensure they are still interested in contributing to the Gentoo project. > ... > Having said that, we are short on manpower... Perhaps the undertakers need to be undertaken? :) Rich (Sor

Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-13 Thread Christopher Head
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 11:03:01 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > > 2. I saw on some lists that Gnome/Kde and Xfce plan to use some > > SystemD API, so does it means that we will need to install SystemD > > aside of OpenRC ? > > For Xfce it only means that xfce4-session will try to query > credentials

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: multilib-strict no longer in FEATURES of targets/developer/make.defaults (pending on bug 424423)

2012-08-13 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 13/08/2012 11:29, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > "/usr/lib// is a directory like /usr/libexec/ or even /bin. It > shares absolutely zero things with the arch-specific $libdir ,or lib64/. Yes I know that FHS allows it. I still think it would be cleaner to use /usr/libexec. It's the usual differe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-13 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:47:51 -0700 Christopher Head wrote: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 11:03:01 +0300 > Samuli Suominen wrote: > > > > 2. I saw on some lists that Gnome/Kde and Xfce plan to use some > > > SystemD API, so does it means that we will need to install SystemD > > > aside of OpenRC ? > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: multilib-strict no longer in FEATURES of targets/developer/make.defaults (pending on bug 424423)

2012-08-13 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 11:14 -0700, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: >> Beside the fact that these would probably have looked better in >> /usr/libexec > > See Kay Sievers's comment at > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51617 : > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: multilib-strict no longer in FEATURES of targets/developer/make.defaults (pending on bug 424423)

2012-08-13 Thread Olivier Crête
On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 17:56 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev > wrote: > > On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 11:14 -0700, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > >> Beside the fact that these would probably have looked better in > >> /usr/libexec > > > > See Kay Sievers's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-13 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 03:47:19PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > > I agree with Greg Kroah-Hartman: I actually like (and want) a > > "vertically integrated, tightly coupled way of doing things". > > Well, if you completely agreed wit