[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] debug USE flag misuse

2010-07-02 Thread Vaeth
Ryan Hill wrote: > If your build system sets -ffast-math or -fstrict-aliasing > then the user can disable this by setting -fno-fast-math > or -fno-strict-aliasing in their CFLAGS. Just because some flags have "counter"-flags by accident, this does not hold for all flags. It is more reasonable to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-07-02 Thread Arun Raghavan
Hey Sebastian, On 30 June 2010 06:15, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Arun, [...] >> And another one for "More direct democracy": >> >> a) How would you decide what questions go up for public vote and which >> ones stay with the council? > > Good question!  I think a few voices from developers (say th

[gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of the bonsaikitten

2010-07-02 Thread Patrick Lauer
With only a few hours left to vote y'all might be wondering "What happened to Patrick's manifesto?" Short version - I'm not in the mood to write long speeches about things I won't manage to do. We have lots of technical issues to discuss and decide on (like the recent as-needed discussion, again,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-07-02 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Arun, On 07/02/10 16:23, Arun Raghavan wrote: > The problem is not noise. The problem is that an issue that needs to > be escalated to Devrel could not be resolved by the involved > developers or the people who were present at the time. Moreover, there > are strong emotions from the devs (and oft

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-07-02 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > I think we're mixing up a few things by now: > - What cases should be handled in public, which shouldn't > - Does DevRel work effectively or not > - The special case of banning people > > All I want to say right here is that: > - Not every

Re: [gentoo-dev] Over using preserve_old_lib, don't do that

2010-07-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, July 02, 2010 01:51:25 Samuli Suominen wrote: > I've recently stumbled upon several packages unnecessarily using old > preserve_old_lib feature from eutils.eclass, namely: > > libgnomekbd > libproxy > > And then users hit issues like this: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] debug USE flag misuse

2010-07-02 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:29:44 +0200 (CEST) Vaeth wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > If your build system sets -ffast-math or -fstrict-aliasing > > then the user can disable this by setting -fno-fast-math > > or -fno-strict-aliasing in their CFLAGS. > > Just because some flags have "counter"-flags b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] debug USE flag misuse

2010-07-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, July 02, 2010 16:39:57 Ryan Hill wrote: > On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:29:44 +0200 (CEST) Vaeth wrote: > > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > If your build system sets -ffast-math or -fstrict-aliasing > > > then the user can disable this by setting -fno-fast-math > > > or -fno-strict-aliasing in their CFLA

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Voting - Reminder

2010-07-02 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2010.06.19 20:56, Roy Bamford wrote: > Team, > > Everything is in place to allow voting in the above election commence > as planned on June 20th at 00:00:00 UTC. > > The polls will remain open until July 3rd 23:59:59 UTC. > [snip] Thats about 25 hours from now ... and so far, the turnout is

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/pedro: metadata.xml ChangeLog pedro-1.5.ebuild

2010-07-02 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 23:59:34 + (UTC), "Keri Harris (keri)" wrote: > Index: pedro-1.5.ebuild > === > # Copyright 1999-2010 Gentoo Foundation > # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 > # $Header: /var/cvs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/pedro: metadata.xml ChangeLog pedro-1.5.ebuild

2010-07-02 Thread Keri Harris
On Saturday 03 July 2010 12:33:17 Jeremy Olexa wrote: > On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 23:59:34 + (UTC), "Keri Harris (keri)" > > wrote: > > Index: pedro-1.5.ebuild > > === > > # Copyright 1999-2010 Gentoo Foundation > > # Distributed under