[gentoo-dev] package.mask-ed ebuilds

2010-04-09 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
Hello! So, I can't find any documentation about this; nor can I find a best-practices list. Can we add broken ebuilds in-tree as long as they are package.masked? automagic deps, wrong deps, missing deps, file collisions, etc etc? Even if it makes the ebuild completely unusable by itself? If yes:

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask-ed ebuilds

2010-04-09 Thread Krzysztof Pawlik
On 04/09/10 08:10, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > Hello! > > So, I can't find any documentation about this; nor can I find a > best-practices list. Can we add broken ebuilds in-tree as long as they > are package.masked? automagic deps, wrong deps, missing deps, file > collisions, etc etc? Even if it ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Guy Fontaine
There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a Gentoo dev and I neither have plan nor wish to be. My feeling is that Gentoo Wiki Project is just but another occasion for debating rules and politics

[gentoo-dev] [looking-for-man-power] Packaging RedHat/Fedora tools and libs

2010-04-09 Thread Fabio Erculiani
I'm in the process of porting (once again) a new Anaconda snapshot to Sabayon (thus, to Gentoo-land). I spent several hours creating ebuilds (basic, not fully integrated yet) for the following pkgs: app-admin/authconfig app-admin/firstboot app-admin/system-config-date app-admin/system-config-date

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Friday 09 of April 2010 13:26:16 Guy Fontaine wrote: > There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my > knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a > Gentoo dev and I neither have plan nor wish to be. > > My feeling is that Gentoo Wiki Proje

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Ben de Groot
On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaine wrote: > There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my > knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a > Gentoo dev and I neither have plan nor wish to be. > > My feeling is that Gentoo Wiki Project is just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Ben de Groot
On 9 April 2010 14:35, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > See? This is the problem. Every time comes an initiative to introduce official > Gentoo infra hosted Gentoo Wiki (yes, the one that won't loose randomly all > its contents) - there's lack of interest of cooperation from already existing > unofficial

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 9 April 2010 14:35, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: >> See? This is the problem. Every time comes an initiative to introduce >> official >> Gentoo infra hosted Gentoo Wiki (yes, the one that won't loose randomly all >> its contents) - there's lack

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-09 Thread Dror Levin
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 21:05, Denis Dupeyron wrote: > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > > So all I'm asking is to do your job and make decisions on issues that > > affect all of Gentoo. The issues I brought up are wider than a single > > individual project. > > And almost 100

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread George Prowse
On 09/04/2010 13:38, Ben de Groot wrote: On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaine wrote: There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a Gentoo dev and I neither have plan nor wish to be. My feeling i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 06:02:40PM +0100, George Prowse wrote: > On 09/04/2010 13:38, Ben de Groot wrote: > > On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaine wrote: > >> There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my > >> knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread AllenJB
On 09/04/10 18:24, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > Really? I understood it as the wiki being an all-purposes wiki, meaning users > could (would and should) create articles on how to get some application > running or how to get some setting working, and the developers will have > their own "sectio

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread George Prowse
On 09/04/2010 18:24, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 06:02:40PM +0100, George Prowse wrote: On 09/04/2010 13:38, Ben de Groot wrote: On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaine wrote: There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Ben de Groot
Allen, if you don't have anything constructive to add, then please refrain from adding to this thread. Thanks, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Qt project lead developer Gentoo Wiki project lead

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Mike Pagano
Here's one possible use-case. For me, I would consider moving http://dev.gentoo.org/~mpagano/genpatches/index.htm to the official wiki so that other people in the kernel herd can update it. If the updating could be scripted, of course. I would not have considered it for an unofficial wiki runn

[gentoo-dev] Re: package.mask-ed ebuilds

2010-04-09 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:40:50 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > Hello! > > So, I can't find any documentation about this; nor can I find a > best-practices list. Can we add broken ebuilds in-tree as long as they > are package.masked? automagic deps, wrong deps, missing deps, file > collisions, etc e

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask-ed ebuilds

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Loeser
Nirbheek Chauhan said: > So, I can't find any documentation about this; nor can I find a > best-practices list. Can we add broken ebuilds in-tree as long as they > are package.masked? automagic deps, wrong deps, missing deps, file > collisions, etc etc? Even if it makes the ebuild completely unusa

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask-ed ebuilds

2010-04-09 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:40:50 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > So, I can't find any documentation about this; nor can I find a > best-practices list. Can we add broken ebuilds in-tree as long as they > are package.masked? automagic deps, wrong deps, missing deps, file > collisions, etc etc? Even if

Re: [gentoo-dev] [looking-for-man-power] Packaging RedHat/Fedora tools and libs

2010-04-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 04/09/2010 04:34 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > They are available in the "sabayon" overlay. Is there anybody > interested in helping me out for the integration and, perhaps, > merge-into-Portage part? That sounds interesting. I was planning to add public apis for the packagekit portage backend t

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask-ed ebuilds

2010-04-09 Thread Ben de Groot
On 9 April 2010 21:22, Michał Górny wrote: > In my opinion, an ebuild should be added to the tree as long as it will > be useful to users. If your ebuild is WIP but you want to give some > users an option to already use it or get some feedback, you could > consider adding it. That's what we have

Re: [gentoo-dev] [looking-for-man-power] Packaging RedHat/Fedora tools and libs

2010-04-09 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 04/09/2010 04:34 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: >> They are available in the "sabayon" overlay. Is there anybody >> interested in helping me out for the integration and, perhaps, >> merge-into-Portage part? > > That sounds interesting. I was plann

Re: [gentoo-dev] [looking-for-man-power] Packaging RedHat/Fedora tools and libs

2010-04-09 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > [semi-OT] > Since I am (together with volkmar) one of the PK Portage backend > maintainers, let me know once you have interesting APIs implemented > for that. The backend itself would also require testing and some > profiling sessions to sp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-09 Thread James Cloos
> "MG" == Michał Górny writes: MG> I prefer perldoc over man. And I cannot imagine why anyone would prefer MG> keeping two copies of the same docs if generating one from another MG> takes less than a second. It takes more than a mere second, and man(1), man.el, woman.el and the like have bet

Re: [gentoo-dev] [looking-for-man-power] Packaging RedHat/Fedora tools and libs

2010-04-09 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 01:34:46PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > app-admin/authconfig (just checking, this is the nsswitch.conf changer right?), if so, then add to below. > net-misc/fcoe-utils > sys-apps/hbaapi > sys-block/open-iscsi (see extra patches) I'm interested in these, and can review/me

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-09 Thread James Cloos
> "D" == Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> writes: D> While you're correct in the ordinary case, keep in mind that this is perl D> developer docs we're talking about here -- not ordinary user documentation. Developer docs *are* ordinary user documentation. Section 3 is perhaps the most used se

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-09 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 01:19:32AM +0200, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 3 April 2010 20:56, George Prowse wrote: > > Does mediawiki have captcha ability? > > Yes, there are a number of solutions for that. I realize I am very late on this thread, but please do not go here unless you provide an audi