Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-03-02 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Montag, den 02.03.2009, 08:31 +0100 schrieb Christian Faulhammer: > Hi, > > Petteri Räty : > > > Let's try something new. I would like to get opinions from as many > > people as possible about GLEP 55 and alternatives listed here in order > > to get some idea what the general developer pool th

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-02 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alistair Bush wrote: > > > Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> On 19:18 Mon 02 Mar , Alistair Bush wrote: >>> Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> >> Could you explain what you see as the important difference that makes >> package.mask bad and a separate overlay good

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl-module.eclass -- review

2009-03-02 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 03:08:52PM +0100, Torsten Veller wrote: > Please review the attached perl-module.eclass. > Patch linked below. Are you going to include the changes from Bug 254980 so that s390 can build their stages properly? Specifically, going to EAPI2 and adding DEPEND="dev-lang/perl[!b

[gentoo-dev] package.use in profiles and IUSE defaults

2009-03-02 Thread Ulrich Mueller
Is it safe to remove an entry from package.use (in profiles) if the package has an IUSE default for the respective flag? To be more concrete, Emacs ebuilds have IUSE="+xpm" now, but we still have an entry "app-editors/emacs xpm" in profiles/base/package.use which I would like to remove. As I under

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl-module.eclass -- review - 2

2009-03-02 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 02 March 2009 08:24:35 Torsten Veller wrote: > > > find "${D}/${VENDOR_LIB}" -type f -a \( -name .packlist \ > > > -o \( -name '*.bs' -a -empty \) \) -delete > > > find "${D}/${VENDOR_LIB}" -depth -mindepth 1 -type d -empty -delete > > > > I'm curious how portable the find (

[gentoo-dev] Re: perl-module.eclass -- review

2009-03-02 Thread Torsten Veller
* "Robin H. Johnson" : > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 03:08:52PM +0100, Torsten Veller wrote: > > Please review the attached perl-module.eclass. > > Patch linked below. > Are you going to include the changes from Bug 254980 so that s390 can > build their stages properly? > > Specifically, going to EAPI

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-02 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alistair Bush schrieb: > Asking non-dev contributors to handle package.mask's would be a "less > than ideal". Resulting in "interesting breakages". Currently by adding > java-experimental ( which might I add isn't available thru layman ) you > are accepting that risk. > > At least java and kde ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.use in profiles and IUSE defaults

2009-03-02 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Is it safe to remove an entry from package.use (in profiles) if the > package has an IUSE default for the respective flag? > > To be more concrete, Emacs ebuilds have IUSE="+xpm" now, but we still > have an entry "app-editors/emacs xpm" in p

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.use in profiles and IUSE defaults

2009-03-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 10:27 Mon 02 Mar , Doug Goldstein wrote: > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > Is it safe to remove an entry from package.use (in profiles) if the > > package has an IUSE default for the respective flag? > > > > To be more concrete, Emacs ebuilds have IUSE="+xpm" no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Repository stacking and complementary overlays

2009-03-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:41:23 +0200 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > So here the reverting of a masking in gentoo-x86 is quite intentional > and currently desired. This is fundamentally broken as a concept. Adding an overlay should not have any impact upon other repositories. It should be possible for a us

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-libs/fec

2009-03-02 Thread Thomas Sachau
# Thomas Sachau (2 Mar 2009) # Mask for removal, was merged into dev-java/fec net-libs/fec will be removed in ~30 days -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl-module.eclass -- review

2009-03-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 13:08 Mon 02 Mar , Torsten Veller wrote: > Currently the eclass doesn't set any dependencies. If it is used the > ebuild has to depend on perl if needed. > > > I see the following options: > > 1) Don't add DEPEND to the eclass. >So if a package is used for stage-building we have to r

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-02 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Monday, 02. March 2009 10:29:59 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Also, having separate overlays would allow one to do experimental stuff > with eclasses in the experimental overlay without affecting users of the > base overlay. Until we get versioned eclasses, I don't see how one can > do tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-03-02 Thread Thilo Bangert
Thanks Petteri, > > 1) Status quo > - does not allow changing inherit > - bash version in global scope > - global scope in general is quite locked down lets move on! > > 2) EAPI in file extension > - Allows changing global scope and the internal format of the ebuild > a) .ebuild- >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl-module.eclass -- review

2009-03-02 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 01:08:15PM +0100, Torsten Veller wrote: >The part I don't understand in the bug above is: >Does adding dev-lang/perl[-build] automagically reinstall >perl during stage-building >(here portage stops and complains). Yes. Portage will rebuild Perl with USE=-buil

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl-module.eclass -- review

2009-03-02 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 09:51:07AM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 13:08 Mon 02 Mar , Torsten Veller wrote: > > Currently the eclass doesn't set any dependencies. If it is used the > > ebuild has to depend on perl if needed. > > > > > > I see the following options: Perl modules by definit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Repository stacking and complementary overlays

2009-03-02 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le lundi 02 mars 2009 à 16:48 +, Ciaran McCreesh a écrit : > On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:41:23 +0200 > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > So here the reverting of a masking in gentoo-x86 is quite > intentional and currently desired. > > This is fundamentally broken as a concept. > > Adding an overlay shoul

Re: [gentoo-dev] Repository stacking and complementary overlays

2009-03-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:55:38 +0100 Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > We didn't implement anything but let's just talk about what we wanted > to see. We simply wanted overlay users to keep testing gnome 2.24 > components that were masked or using masked packages in > base/package.mask so we just made

[gentoo-dev] bash-4.0-r1 for ~arch

2009-03-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
unless i see any new issues come up, bash-4.0-r1 will be going into ~arch this week. now would be a good time to sync up and try bash-4.0 on your system :p. -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] bash-4.0-r1 for ~arch

2009-03-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 19:27 Mon 02 Mar , Mike Frysinger wrote: > unless i see any new issues come up, bash-4.0-r1 will be going into ~arch > this > week. now would be a good time to sync up and try bash-4.0 on your system :p. > -mike comet $ source /usr/share/bash-completion/genkernel -bash: /usr/share/bash-c

Re: [gentoo-dev] bash-4.0-r1 for ~arch

2009-03-02 Thread Caleb Cushing
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Actually seems like quite a few of the bash-completion scripts have > issues with 4.0 ... might want to just run through those. nam-1.11.ebuild has the same error. repoman can't source it. /mnt/sda8/portdev/tree/regen2/net-analyzer/nam/na

Re: [gentoo-dev] bash-4.0-r1 for ~arch

2009-03-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 02 March 2009 22:56:27 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 19:27 Mon 02 Mar , Mike Frysinger wrote: > > unless i see any new issues come up, bash-4.0-r1 will be going into ~arch > > this week. now would be a good time to sync up and try bash-4.0 on your > > system :p. -mike > > comet $ sourc

[gentoo-dev] Using -frecord-gcc-switches

2009-03-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-frecord-gcc-switches is a really cool gcc option to save the CFLAGS a binary was built with in the binary itself. This could help with our bug reporting or with various QA checks. Imagine if `emerge --info cat/pkg` showed the CFLAGS that the binaries were actually built with, instead of some g

Re: [gentoo-dev] bash-4.0-r1 for ~arch

2009-03-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 01:25:49 Caleb Cushing wrote: > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Actually seems like quite a few of the bash-completion scripts have > > issues with 4.0 ... might want to just run through those. > > nam-1.11.ebuild has the same error. repoman can'

Re: [gentoo-dev] bash-4.0-r1 for ~arch

2009-03-02 Thread Caleb Cushing
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > look closely and you'll see it's simply wrong.  it's a bug if older versions > of bash didnt reject it. they didn't. given it's the one ebuild that failed to source by emerge --regen in the whole tree and therefore failed reverse-transfer, f

[gentoo-dev] Re: bash-4.0-r1 for ~arch

2009-03-02 Thread ABCD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 02 March 2009 22:56:27 Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> On 19:27 Mon 02 Mar , Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> unless i see any new issues come up, bash-4.0-r1 will be going into ~arch >>> this week. now would be a good time to

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-02 Thread Caleb Cushing
>  Are we to say that we shouldn't allow tools to have support for this.  I > think that it is a nature progression that if we are to allow overlays to > extend the portage tree that we should allow overlays to extend other > overlays. I probably shouldn't butt in... first, no I don't want you to

[gentoo-dev] Re: QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-02 Thread Duncan
Caleb Cushing posted 81bfc67a0903022319j38aba363nbb46e272e26be...@mail.gmail.com, excerpted below, on Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:19:29 -0500: > second. I generally think anything beyond a personal overlay is crap. > All these overlays like sunrise, java-overlay, and on and on... > basically official, o

Re: [gentoo-dev] bash-4.0-r1 for ~arch

2009-03-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 01:27 Tue 03 Mar , Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 02 March 2009 22:56:27 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Actually seems like quite a few of the bash-completion scripts have > > issues with 4.0 ... might want to just run through those. > > i dont use bash completion so i dont have any actually

Re: [gentoo-dev] bash-4.0-r1 for ~arch

2009-03-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 23:54 Mon 02 Mar , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 01:27 Tue 03 Mar , Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Monday 02 March 2009 22:56:27 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > Actually seems like quite a few of the bash-completion scripts have > > > issues with 4.0 ... might want to just run through those. >