Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 17/12/2008 в 16:34 -0800, Donnie Berkholz пишет: > Is that some huge package that takes an unreasonable amount of time to > build or space to install? Probably in this case it takes reasonable amount of time... > If not, this doesn't seem like a very meaningful choice to me. Well, your

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:40:41 +0300 Peter Volkov wrote: > Well, your questions forced me to do my own investigation of gzip > performance in one real-life scenario which I hope to use really > soon. I took my Neo FreeRunner and tested gzip decompression speed > there. Time to read 10Mb file is abou

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 19/12/2008 в 14:45 +, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: > If it reads (and presumably uncompresses) all of them at startup > anyway, what's the point in compressing them at all? It makes size smaller: both index and data files are text files so compression is very effective. All distributions I've

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:56:02 +0300 Peter Volkov wrote: > В Птн, 19/12/2008 в 14:45 +, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: > > If it reads (and presumably uncompresses) all of them at startup > > anyway, what's the point in compressing them at all? > > It makes size smaller: both index and data files are t

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 19/12/2008 в 17:06 +, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: > But disk space is cheap. How big are the dictionaries? The vim > dictionaries are around half a meg uncompressed, and if you're looking > to save a meg or two in disk space on the kind of system that includes > dictionaries then you're doing

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Duncan
Peter Volkov posted 1229707964.13304.1334.ca...@localhost, excerpted below, on Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:32:44 +0300: > В Птн, 19/12/2008 в 17:06 +, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: >> But disk space is cheap. How big are the dictionaries? The vim >> dictionaries are around half a meg uncompressed, and if y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 00:16 +, Duncan wrote: > But a gig of space (or even half a gig)... that's rather > different as there are still a decent number of people for whom that's 1% > or more of their total, who may be willing to take that latency as they > have better things to do with the sp

[gentoo-dev] Re: bash version in ebuilds/eclasses...non-compliance and what to do?

2008-12-19 Thread Steve Long
Jeremy Olexa wrote: > This causes me pain on my hosts that don't have >=bash-3.1[0] for > /bin/bash. Because I can't install portage with an old bash until I > get a new python installed which uses python.eclass which isn't > supported with my /bin/bash (quite circular indeed) > > Technically the