Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 29-05-2008 08:54:48 +0200, Rémi Cardona wrote: > Marius Mauch a écrit : >> So, do you think it should be enabled by default? > > Does portage have a way to report which libraries it is keeping around > because of preserve-libs ? If there's an easy way to figure that out, > then enabling it b

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: | The purpose of this is to keep the system operational after library | upgrades until all affected packages could be rebuilt and to simplify | the process, not to avoid the rebuilds. I couldn't find it mentioned in your email, bu

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also it is not going to be a perfect solution against all runtime link > errors, but if enabled it should eliminate the need for revdep-rebuild > in most cases. I'm afraid that it will turn, for complex libraries like libexpat and users not using --as-ne

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2008-05-29 01:13:16 Marius Mauch napisał(a): > One concern raised by some people is that it might cause old libraries > with security issues to stay on the system for eternity even though > the package was upgraded, and eventually be preferred by new builds. This shouldn't be a problem, because un

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2008-05-29 08:54:48 Rémi Cardona napisał(a): > Does portage have a way to report which libraries it is keeping around > because of preserve-libs ? portageq list_preserved_libs / -- Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 29 May 2008 09:28:16 +0100 Mike Auty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Marius Mauch wrote: > | The purpose of this is to keep the system operational after library > | upgrades until all affected packages could be rebuilt and to > | simplify t

[gentoo-dev] Recent changes wrt python.eclass

2008-05-29 Thread Ali Polatel
Hi people, All python_mod_* functions are now ROOT aware. I've also modified them to die if they aren't run in expected phases. Also I plan to make byte compiling functions print a warning when *.py{c,o} are installed under /usr/share which is a FHS violation. The tree and python developer's guid

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [RFC] Eclass for gnome-python* split

2008-05-29 Thread Ali Polatel
Ali Polatel yazmış: > Mart Raudsepp yazmış: > > On L, 2008-05-24 at 10:18 +0300, Ali Polatel wrote: > > > Arun Raghavan yazmış: > > > > Greetings All, > > > > > > Hey there > > > > > > > I've been working on an ancient bug [1] requesting a split of the > > > > gnome-python, gnome-python-extras, a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 29 May 2008 11:02:55 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote: > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > As much as we want preserve-libs to be an all-curing magic, it's > not. When you need to replace a library you need to do so _for all its > users at once_, if you

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2008-05-29 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 29/05/2008 в 15:42 +, Raul Porcel (armin76) пишет: > armin76 08/05/29 15:42:29 > > Modified: package.mask > Log: > P.mask net-dns/resolvconfig-gentoo as per bug #219270 > > Revision ChangesPath > 1.8663 profiles/package.mask Whenever you modif

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 29/05/2008 в 11:02 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò пишет: > I'm afraid that it will turn, for complex libraries like libexpat and > users not using --as-needed, the message telling you the program cannot > be started with subtle crashes for symbol collision. Is there any reason why --as-