Re: [gentoo-dev] Resurrecting the seeds project

2007-11-13 Thread Aniruddha
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 08:58 Mon 12 Nov , Aniruddha wrote: > >> I am interested in resurrecting the 'seeds' project ( >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/seeds/ ). I first heard from it when I >> announced my stage 4 project ( >> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-610904-highlight-.html

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:13:32 + Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Use of ((EUID)) is also quicker. > > > > Quicker than what? > > Than [[ ${UID} -ne 0 ]] ie the existing code. What did you think the > discussion was about? Well, I was kind of wondering... Because it looked to me like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Phase invariancy and exclusivity requirements

2007-11-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:26:46 +0100 "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What exactly is the difference between this valid situation and the > previous invalid one? It's basically down to whether pkg_setup has to be run with the same system state as pkg_preinst / pkg_postinst. If

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-13 Thread Dan
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:13:32 + Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Use of ((EUID)) is also quicker. Quicker than what? Than [[ ${UID} -ne 0 ]] ie the existing code. What did you think the discussion was about? Well, I was kind of wondering

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-13 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:13:52 -0500 Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mind taking this off list? As much fun as it is to see two people > run around in circles blindfolded with pointy sticks, It really > doesn't belong here. Would you mind not needlessly quoting ~9KB of text, next time? Thanks! :)

Re: [gentoo-dev] eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-13 Thread Doug Klima
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Hey all, > > I've been wanting a GUI for eselect lately, so tonight I hacked up the > start of one called eselect_zenity [1]. It only works for the most > trivial modules so far -- it has to parse eselect output, so special > parsers need to be written for each type. ese

[gentoo-dev] Re: eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-13 Thread Markus Ullmann
Doug Klima schrieb: > While I haven't had much time to work on the bits, Gentopia does contain > PolicyKit (though the 0.7 snapshots that appear do have some issues and > you should stick to the 0.6 series). It's hopefully going to be the way > forward for Gentoo to use PolicyKit. As many may know,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 21:01 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: > I plan to make the java eclasses use the EAPI 1 Any chance we can *at least* wait until we have a release out the door that has a portage version which supports these features *before* we start trying to use them in the tree? Our general ru

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:22:03 -0800 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any chance we can *at least* wait until we have a release out the door > that has a portage version which supports these features *before* we > start trying to use them in the tree? Our general rule was to not use > f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-13 Thread Doug Klima
Markus Ullmann wrote: > Doug Klima schrieb: > >> While I haven't had much time to work on the bits, Gentopia does contain >> PolicyKit (though the 0.7 snapshots that appear do have some issues and >> you should stick to the 0.6 series). It's hopefully going to be the way >> forward for Gentoo to

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-text/notecase: ChangeLog notecase-1.7.2.ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 16:06 Tue 13 Nov , Raul Porcel (armin76) wrote: > 1.1 app-text/notecase/notecase-1.7.2.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-text/notecase/notecase-1.7.2.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x8

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 20:22 Tue 13 Nov , Markus Ullmann wrote: > Doug Klima schrieb: > > While I haven't had much time to work on the bits, Gentopia does contain > > PolicyKit (though the 0.7 snapshots that appear do have some issues and > > you should stick to the 0.6 series). It's hopefully going to be the way

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-13 Thread Rémi Cardona
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > I'd like to talk in more detail about this with someone, but nobody on > #gentoo-guis seemed to know why PackageKit wouldn't work for the simple > (no USE flag changes) case. Should I try the -guis mailing list instead? Looking at the current feature set of PackageKit, t

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/libevent: ChangeLog libevent-1.3e.ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Steve Long
Jan Kundrát wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: >>> if [[ -n "${ver}" ]] && [[ ${ver//[a-zA-Z-]} != "${PV//[a-zA-Z]}" ]] ; >>> then >> >> It isn't terribly likely to become an issue here, but it might be nicer >> to use [[:alpha:]] than [a-zA-Z]. > > Is [[:alpha:]] locale-safe? > Yes, all POSIX char

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 20:31 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > That was only the case because previously, using new features that > Portage didn't support would cause horrible breakage. Now, instead, the > ebuilds show up as being masked. ...which is just as good as "broken" when it happens to a new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/libevent: ChangeLog libevent-1.3e.ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Jan Kundrát
Steve Long wrote: >> Is [[:alpha:]] locale-safe? >> > Yes, all POSIX character classes listed here are: > http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap07.html Thanks for a nice link. If I read section 7.3.1 correctly, [[:alpha:]] always contains those letters, but might contain m

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:17:59 -0800 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 20:31 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > That was only the case because previously, using new features that > > Portage didn't support would cause horrible breakage. Now, instead, > > the ebuilds s

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:39:50 + Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Read it (and my explanation of it earlier in the thread) until you > understand it. There is nothing consistent in what I'm saying. ...bleh. *in*consistent. NNeee oe... --

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti: > On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 21:01 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: >> I plan to make the java eclasses use the EAPI 1 > > Any chance we can *at least* wait until we have a release out the door > that has a portage version which supports these features *before* we > start trying t

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 00:39 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Umm... So in the paragraph above, you say an EAPI-specific eclass > > isn't a good idea, and here you push it as the proposed solution. > > Huh? Consistency, please... > > Read it (and my explanation of it earlier in the thread) until y

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:25:44 -0800 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > EAPI *can't* be set in an eclass correctly anyway because EAPI is > > allowed to (and likely will in the future) change the behaviour of > > inherit. > > ...and this proves my point. Rather than simply stating this

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Josh Saddler
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> ...which is just as good as "broken" when it happens to a new user >> first installing Gentoo and wondering why he can't even follow the >> directions in the Handbook. > > ...so you just ensure that the handbook tells the user to upgrade the > package manager as quickly a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/libevent: ChangeLog libevent-1.3e.ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 01:33:54 Jan Kundrát wrote: > Steve Long wrote: > >> Is [[:alpha:]] locale-safe? > > > > Yes, all POSIX character classes listed here are: > > http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap07.html > > Thanks for a nice link. If I read section 7.3.1 cor

[gentoo-dev] packages.gentoo.org lives!

2007-11-13 Thread Robin H. Johnson
After a LOT of development, Gentoo Infra is pleased to announce the return of the new packages.gentoo.org site. The new site is a complete rewrite. If you had bookmarks to the old style of URL, please consult the FAQ for the new form. We are NOT rewriting these URLs: '/packages/?category=media-sou

[gentoo-dev] Re: packages.gentoo.org lives!

2007-11-13 Thread Ryan Hill
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > After a LOT of development, Gentoo Infra is pleased to announce the > return of the new packages.gentoo.org site. The new site is a complete > rewrite. Yay! Nice work guys. > Please read the entire FAQ before asking any questions! > http://packages.gentoo.org/faq/ Does

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: packages.gentoo.org lives!

2007-11-13 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 10:14:57PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > Please read the entire FAQ before asking any questions! > > http://packages.gentoo.org/faq/ > Does this count as a rendering bug? Seems to be missing the > black/purple banner bit. > http://dev.gentoo.org/~dirtyepic/misc/pgologo.png No

[gentoo-dev] Re: packages.gentoo.org lives!

2007-11-13 Thread Duncan
Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:14:57 -0600: >> Please read the entire FAQ before asking any questions! >> http://packages.gentoo.org/faq/ > > Does this count as a rendering bug? Seems to be missing the > black/purple banner bit. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: packages.gentoo.org lives!

2007-11-13 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > There isn't meant to be the big black area at the top like, the main > gentoo.org site. But shouldn't there be some sort of area at the top with links to the other parts of the site, as the other pages do (the navstrip across the top)? Right now there's zero integration w

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/libevent: ChangeLog libevent-1.3e.ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Steve Long
Jan Kundrát wrote: > Steve Long wrote: >>> Is [[:alpha:]] locale-safe? >>> >> Yes, all POSIX character classes listed here are: >> http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap07.html > > Thanks for a nice link. If I read section 7.3.1 correctly, [[:alpha:]] > always contains th