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http://gentoo.tamperd.net/stable has just been updated with 13748 ebuilds.
The page shows results from a number of tests that are run against the ebuilds.
The tests are:
* if a version has been masked for 30 days or more.
* if an arch was in KE
On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 09:56:35PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> | Then what is the point of this GLEP? Instead, just warn people
> | through existing intrastructure, which is cheap from an engineering
> | perspective because everything is already there in place, and don't
> | think of implement
7.11.2005, 9:41:04, Grobian wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 09:56:35PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> | Then what is the point of this GLEP? Instead, just warn people
>> | through existing intrastructure, which is cheap from an engineering
>> | perspective because everything is already there
On Saturday 05 November 2005 06:34, Alec Warner wrote:
>
> emerge --changelog has no 'official' format. I believe echangelog
> actually puts the changes in the correct format for emerge -l to read,
> however not everyone uses echangelog. Many developers commit in an
> incompatable syntax causing
On Monday 07 November 2005 09:08, Daniel Ahlberg wrote:
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As you told ;)
I was wondering if you could add a couple of checks for Gentoo/ALT
compatibility... not the
On Friday 04 November 2005 16:55, Nathan L. Adams wrote:
> Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> > On Friday 04 November 2005 14:38, Nathan L. Adams wrote:
> >>Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> >>>What is worse is that some
> >>>users might not update for a prolongued time (6 months). At that
> >>> time they will not find
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 02:05:37AM -0500, Alec Warner wrote:
> Could we by chance, mandate some sort of comment field in that file not
> unlike package.mask?
Sounds like a really good idea to me. Will this require any
modifications to portage, or will it automagically ignore # comments
in that fil
On Saturday 05 November 2005 01:58, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> ``Posted:``
> Date of posting, in ``dd-mmm-`` format (e.g. 14-Aug-2001). UTC
> time in ``hh-mm-ss +`` format may also be included. This field is
> mandatory.
What about also allowing the -mm-dd format (with or without hyp
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:50:22AM +0100, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> What about also allowing the -mm-dd format (with or without hyphens).
> Using English month names is not the most convenient for many people.
I would go as far as suggesting to make it a requirement to use an
ISO-8601 compliant
On Monday 07 November 2005 19:11, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> On Saturday 05 November 2005 06:34, Alec Warner wrote:
> > emerge --changelog has no 'official' format. I believe echangelog
> > actually puts the changes in the correct format for emerge -l to read,
> > however not everyone uses echangelog
On Monday 07 November 2005 19:25, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 02:05:37AM -0500, Alec Warner wrote:
> > Could we by chance, mandate some sort of comment field in that file not
> > unlike package.mask?
>
> Sounds like a really good idea to me. Will this require any
> modific
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Ok before going on with the profile changes for Gentoo/*BSD, I'd like
to fix the virtual/tar thing. Just to make the things more clear, of
the current and planned Gentoo/ALT ports, the "tar" command is going
to be provided by two different packa
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 02:05:37AM -0500, Alec Warner wrote:
> Could we by chance, mandate some sort of comment field in that file not
> unlike package.mask?
what really needs explanation ? i mean, why do you need a comment for say:
aalib media-libs/aalib
canna app-i18
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Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 02:05:37AM -0500, Alec Warner wrote:
>
>>Could we by chance, mandate some sort of comment field in that file not
>>unlike package.mask?
>
>
> what really needs explanation ? i mean, why do you need a
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:08:45AM -0500, Alec Warner wrote:
> Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 02:05:37AM -0500, Alec Warner wrote:
> >
> >>Could we by chance, mandate some sort of comment field in that file not
> >>unlike package.mask?
> >
> >
> > what really needs explanation
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Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:08:45AM -0500, Alec Warner wrote:
>
>>Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 02:05:37AM -0500, Alec Warner wrote:
>>>
>>>
Could we by chance, mandate some sort of comment field in tha
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:50:14AM -0500, Alec Warner wrote:
> A. use.defaults exists for a reason, and developers are using it to
> enable functionality.
> B. Turning off a flag in use.defaults may cause undesired behavior.
>
> that reason is. If it doesn't do anything useful, then yeah, I'd lik
Jason Stubbs wrote: [Mon Nov 07 2005, 06:37:10AM CST]
> So what's the point of the ChangeLog again? Move load from the CVS
> server and onto the rsync servers? (Don't answer that - just beating a
> dead horse ;)
*Grin* I'm going to answer anyway, since the answer isn't necessarily
obvious to ever
Hi Everyone,
So GWN was a littel early, but I did announce my intentions on -core on
Friday, that I would be speeding mcummings back through the recruitment
process. As you all know, mcummings has been _the_ perl man for gentoo
for years now. He basically started the perl team and developed the
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 09:41:04 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Remember that there are packages in the tree that satisfy the
| preemptive requirement, since they simply die when trying to upgrade
| and a certain amount of prerequisites is not met. This prevents the
| user from losing data
John Myers posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
excerpted below, on Sun, 06 Nov 2005 23:18:33 -0800:
> On Sunday 06 November 2005 13:38, Duncan wrote:
>> I don't believe the apache upgrade issues were announced on the announce
>> list.
> For the record, it was sent to the announce list on 2004-12-24.
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 11:50:22 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| On Saturday 05 November 2005 01:58, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| > ``Posted:``
| > Date of posting, in ``dd-mmm-`` format (e.g. 14-Aug-2001).
| > UTC time in ``hh-mm-ss +`` format may also be included. This
| > fi
Ciaran McCreesh posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
below, on Sun, 06 Nov 2005 21:47:47 +:
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 14:38:47 -0700 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | While I agree with the point you make, I don't believe the apache
> | upgrade issues were announced on the announce list. Th
On Tuesday 08 November 2005 01:06, Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Jason Stubbs wrote: [Mon Nov 07 2005, 06:37:10AM CST]
> > I'm really just against having it in emerge, especially with the current
> > suggestion of portage just doing a little bit of maintenance work for
> > external tools and nothing else
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 21:37 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> So what's the point of the ChangeLog again?
Isn't it to record specific changes that have happened to a specific
package?
News items may be about changes that have not yet happened - to allow
users to plan ahead and prepare appropriately.
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 09:27 -0700, Duncan wrote:
> They shouldn't /have/ to, but the option is there. Those who care about
> security and care about getting a heads-up on "major" changes of this
> nature, will find several opportunities to be notified of them.
That's not the point behind the pu
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 11:11 -0500, Seemant Kulleen wrote:
>
> So, please join me in a hearty Welcome Back for Michael Cummings.
Yey! Great news :)
//Spider ,
Who's too fed up with bureaucrazy to willingly submit himself to
devrel. :-)
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Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
| What I want to hear is if anyone has good reasons to not allowing
| choosing the tar command between the two compatible alternatives (both
| works fine with portage). If nobody has reasons, I'll be back in a
| coup
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 11:11 -0500, Seemant Kulleen wrote:
> So, please join me in a hearty Welcome Back for Michael Cummings.
>
> Mike, we missed you :)
We sure did! Welcome back! Glad to see the beurocracy didn't manage to
get in the way of this :)
Now, about mod_perl 2 ... ;-)
Best regards,
Stuart Herbert wrote:
By your own admission, you're on the announce list, and but you didn't
know about the Apache changes. Imagine how many other users were in the
same situation. Imagine how many other users never signed up to the
announce list in the first place.
On gentoo-dev, gentoo-user
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:32:38 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| So, what list should the user that wants to receive those
| **important** messages sign up to?
That's your first misconception right there. Most users don't sign up
for things.
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On Monday 07 November 2005 19:22, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Sure. What's the point? What benefit does one tar have over the other?
> How is bsdtar more capable in any situation than gnutar?
the first point is not to change the default behavior of an userland, so
FreeBSD should have FreeBSD tar.
Ab
[snip]
> After going through the list, I got the impression there is simply no
> place where such messages clearly would go. gentoo-announce sounds as
> the best option to go for, but its description somehow suggests not.
> Though, subscribed to gentoo-announce means you get nothing but GLSA
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:32:38 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| So, what list should the user that wants to receive those
| **important** messages sign up to?
That's your first misconception right there. Most users don't sign up
for things.
Doesn't matter. If th
[snip]
> After going through the list, I got the impression there is simply no
> place where such messages clearly would go. gentoo-announce sounds as
> the best option to go for, but its description somehow suggests not.
> Though, subscribed to gentoo-announce means you get nothing but GLSA
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 14:02 -0500, Daniel Ostrow wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > After going through the list, I got the impression there is simply no
> > place where such messages clearly would go. gentoo-announce sounds as
> > the best option to go for, but its description somehow suggests not.
> > Th
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
On Monday 07 November 2005 19:22, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Sure. What's the point? What benefit does one tar have over the other?
How is bsdtar more capable in any situation than gnutar?
the first point is not to change the default behavior of an userland, so
On Monday 07 November 2005 20:38, Alec Joseph Warner wrote:
> So why is a virtual needed? Don't the two packages co-exist?
They do, but at the moment just one can provide /bin/tar for a specific
system.
The idea is to be able to select one of the two, like loggers, crons, and
similar. And just
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:11:23 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Besides that, I see no arguments why users don't. No proof either.
Have a look at how amazingly well certain recent upgrades have gone...
| Forcing a push-based method on someone who likes pull-based methods
| is evil. The
Daniel Ostrow wrote:
You are correct, there is no clear cut place for them to go...that's how
this thing got started in the first place. However why force users to
sign up for something which can't be appropriately filtered (installed
packages, keywords, use flags, profiles, etc.) when all of the
051107 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> 7 Nov 2005 11:50:22 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Saturday 05 November 2005 01:58, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>> ``Posted:``
>>> Date of posting, in ``dd-mmm-`` format (e.g. 14-Aug-2001).
>>> UTC time in ``hh-mm-ss +`` format may also
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 11:11:02 -0500
Seemant Kulleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike, we missed you :)
Except for the Ruby herd, who saw a great chance to convert lots of
people... :P
Joking aside, welcome back Mike! :)
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7.11.2005, 20:11:23, Grobian wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:32:38 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> | So, what list should the user that wants to receive those
>> | **important** messages sign up to?
>>
>> That's your first misconception right there. Most use
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:10:35 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| It is a well-known fact that removing seemingly useless background
| noise can cause relations between problems not to be recognised.
| Some users know that and hence would like to see all errata.
And, conveniently enough, the
On Monday 07 of November 2005 21:10 Grobian wrote:
> Our GLSAs are sent out exactly in the same way, but there is not a word
> on them in the GLEP, neither does anyone seem to care about them, while
> they seem to me at least ***VERY*** important, that is, much more
> important than a message about
On Monday 07 of November 2005 21:12 Philip Webb wrote:
> 051107 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> I'm serious -- Gentoo should try to follow international standards -- ,
> but have a (smile) to recognise it's a small point.
See the first line of the quotation :-P
Cheers,
-jkt
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On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:12:20 -0500 Philip Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| I'm serious -- Gentoo should try to follow international standards
The format specified in GLEP 1 is an international standard. It's just
not the same international standard that you're after.
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Ok, this is a change to the GLEP process, so it itself needs to be a
GLEP... All it does is propose that GLEPs be allowed to stick example
code in a subdirectory rather than having to inline things or shove
them off on someone's devspace.
Text version attached. An HTML version will be up on the ma
Hi list,
Michael has just joined us to help with the Video Disc Record ebuilds.
He lives in a small town near Bielefeld in Germany, and is twenty-one
years old. He has a girlfriend. In his spare time he takes an interest
in politics, and has also provided translations for a few Firefox
extensions.
Stuart Herbert posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
excerpted below, on Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:03:14 +:
>> The announce list is one.
>
> By your own admission, you're on the announce list, and but you didn't
> know about the Apache changes. Imagine how many other users were in the
> same situation.
Seemant Kulleen wrote:
[Mike is back]
Yai! Welcome, we really needed you back (beside that ruby is quite nice,
*cough*)
lu
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051107 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> 7 Nov 2005 15:12:20 -0500 Philip Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm serious -- Gentoo should try to follow international standards
> The format specified in GLEP 1 is an international standard.
> It's just not the same international standard that you're after.
I
I suppose my only question is, why can't examples be inlined at the
bottom of the glep, and simply use a in document link to reference
them?
On 11/7/05, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, this is a change to the GLEP process, so it itself needs to be a
> GLEP... All it does is propos
An internation standard that utilizes an international language... hrm
On 11/7/05, Philip Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 051107 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > 7 Nov 2005 15:12:20 -0500 Philip Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I'm serious -- Gentoo should try to follow international standards
> >
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:34:44 -0500 Dan Meltzer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I suppose my only question is, why can't examples be inlined at the
| bottom of the glep, and simply use a in document link to reference
| them?
They can be, it's just really frickin' messy. It also makes it slightly
harder
Okay, it works according to my useless opinion :)
On 11/7/05, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:34:44 -0500 Dan Meltzer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | I suppose my only question is, why can't examples be inlined at the
> | bottom of the glep, and simply use a in
Nathan L. Adams wrote:
So you're saying that Gentoo consists of projects that are completely
'silo'd up' and have no bearing whatsoever on each other. Then the
DevRel project only has bearing on those who actually join DevRel. Neat,
a group formed for the sole purpose of coordinating itself. Sec
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