[gentoo-dev] Gentoo on m68k

2005-06-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Hi, I got no answer on gentoo-user, so I try again here. I've seen keywords m68k and ~m68k in several ebuilds and there's also an m68k profile in the portage tree. Does this mean I can put gentoo on my old Amiga? Is there a stage file somewhere which I can test? And finally: Anything I can do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Language styling translation tools

2005-06-21 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 06:32, Anthony Gorecki wrote: > On Monday, June 20, 2005 9:30 pm, Wesley Leggette wrote: > > Isn't that sort of like speaking French with English words? > > Sorry, perhaps I should actually state what I need to do in clear > terms: I need to turn MyQuiteLongClassOrMethodName

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Senno During (st3vie)

2005-06-21 Thread st3vie
hi all, and thanks for the kind words. :) -st3vie On 6/19/05, Andrés Pereira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aaron Walker wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Please give a nice Gentoo-ized welcome to Senno During (st3vie). Senno > > will be > > leading the Dutch GWN Translation team (actually he has bee

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Senno During (st3vie)

2005-06-21 Thread Jonathan Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 st3vie wrote: > hi all, and thanks for the kind words. :) (use your gentoo email address... thats why its there ;-) - -- smithj Gentoo Developer [ desktop-misc && documentation ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Co

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Senno During (st3vie)

2005-06-21 Thread Martin Holzhauer
no use gmail its more 1337 ;p -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 14:35, Alin Nastac wrote: > I don't really understand why you consider pppconfig unpredictable. > the ebuild displays what languages will be installed. Because there is no way to foretell what will be installed without actually initiating an install. > > >The IUSE thing w

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 05:28, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Tuesday 21 June 2005 14:35, Alin Nastac wrote: > > This would be fine as long as LINGUAS do not appear in IUSE. When > > LINGUAS var is empty, the "equery uses" report would be an abomination . > > The whole point is to add this stuff to IUS

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 14:11, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > FRITZCAPI_CARDS FCDSL_CARDS VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES LINGUAS > > > > Do any of these not follow the same pattern of empty var == all > > installed? Any objections to making that a requirement for adding a new > > USE_E

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on m68k

2005-06-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 05:46 am, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Does this mean I can put gentoo on my old Amiga? kind of > Is there a stage file somewhere which I can test? not yet ... but you can find binary packages here: http://dev.gentoo.org/~vapier/m68k/ > And finally: Anything I can do to help?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on m68k

2005-06-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 21. Juni 2005 15:02 schrieb ext Mike Frysinger: > On Tuesday 21 June 2005 05:46 am, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > > Is there a stage file somewhere which I can test? > > not yet ... but you can find binary packages here: > http://dev.gentoo.org/~vapier/m68k/ Ah yes, I will see if I find s

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-21 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi folks, I would like to get your opinion on Enterprise-oriented desktop deployment tools for Gentoo Linux (or the lack of). As a small company CIO, I deployed Gentoo on a small scale here but quickly ran into scaling problems and the lack of tools to help. There is no obvious way to freeze a P

Re: [gentoo-dev] warning: no newline at end of file

2005-06-21 Thread Aron Griffis
Andrej Kacian wrote:[Sun Jun 19 2005, 08:19:16PM EDT] > I've been wondering - is there any eclass for fixing gcc warnings in $SUBJ > for C/C++ source files? Please don't do this. You're suggesting adding something to our tree and ebuilds that will increase build time and hide upstream proble

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Stubbs wrote: > Any reason why INPUT_DEVICES is needed in USE_EXPAND rather than just as > local > USE flags? It's kind of the odd one out among the above. The reasoning for that is that hardware support doesn't make sense as USE flags, so it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Language styling translation tools

2005-06-21 Thread Wesley Leggette
On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 21:32 -0700, Anthony Gorecki wrote: > On Monday, June 20, 2005 9:30 pm, Wesley Leggette wrote: > > Isn't that sort of like speaking French with English words? > > Sorry, perhaps I should actually state what I need to do in clear terms: > I need to turn MyQuiteLongClassOrMetho

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-21 Thread Alec Warner
Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi folks, I would like to get your opinion on Enterprise-oriented desktop deployment tools for Gentoo Linux (or the lack of). As a small company CIO, I deployed Gentoo on a small scale here but quickly ran into scaling problems and the lack of tools to help. There is no o

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Alec Warner
Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Stubbs wrote: Any reason why INPUT_DEVICES is needed in USE_EXPAND rather than just as local USE flags? It's kind of the odd one out among the above. The reasoning for that is that hardware support doesn't make sens

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on m68k

2005-06-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 09:55 am, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Dienstag, 21. Juni 2005 15:02 schrieb ext Mike Frysinger: > > On Tuesday 21 June 2005 05:46 am, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > > > And finally: Anything I can do to help? > > > > try to get a gcc version which doesnt segfault ? :) > > Yep, that

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > The reasoning for that is that hardware support doesn't make sense as > USE flags, so it should be something else. In this case, that was > INPUT_DEVICES. We haven't been able to take much advantage of it y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Language styling translation tools

2005-06-21 Thread Anthony Gorecki
On Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:48 am, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > What the tool should basically do is in some way record the full names > (including namespaces) that were changed, and then at the end change them > back again. That was one of the first things that I considered, but how would it know to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-21 Thread Thierry Carrez
Alec Warner wrote: >> There is no obvious way to freeze a Portage tree (or to design a >> specific profile) for testing on a golden workstation, to build a set of >> update packages (ServicePack) and push it to the workstations, or to >> have centralized accountability of what's installed where. T

Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion: alternative compatible utilities

2005-06-21 Thread Aron Griffis
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:[Fri Jun 17 2005, 10:05:32AM EDT] > On Friday 17 June 2005 04:32, Aron Griffis wrote: > > Before working on a solution to the problem, could we get a more > > complete list of the tools in question? This has come up before but > > the list seems to always end with "

Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion: alternative compatible utilities

2005-06-21 Thread Aron Griffis
Azarah wrote:[Sat Jun 18 2005, 07:23:19AM EDT] > You might however say install all gnuish tools with the 'g' prefix, > and then install wrapper scripts/stubs into say /usr/bin/gnu/ or > /bin/gnu/ (with /usr/bin/gnu/find calling gfind, etc), and portage > just adds this path as the first path to $PA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion: alternative compatible utilities

2005-06-21 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 20:42, Aron Griffis wrote: > In other words, I think you need to do some work in an overlay so that > you can present a real list of affected ebuilds and utilites, rather > than stating that you "don't really know" Well this was just a discussion, no work should really start

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-21 Thread Omkhar Arasaratnam
Thierry Carrez wrote: >Hi folks, > >I would like to get your opinion on Enterprise-oriented desktop >deployment tools for Gentoo Linux (or the lack of). > >As a small company CIO, I deployed Gentoo on a small scale here but >quickly ran into scaling problems and the lack of tools to help. > >There

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-21 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 08:35:52PM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: > I don't say that it cannot be done, and I don't ask what's the best way > to do it. I just ask *if* we should try to provide higher-level tools > (and/or doc) to help in doing so. It's not obvious (especially for > non-developers) ho