Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/06/2011 02:52 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 06 December 2011 17:27:48 Brian Harring wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 05:06:33PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> On Tuesday 06 December 2011 16:52:55 Brian Harring wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 03:52:07PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wr

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 11:34:28PM +0100, Micha?? G??rny wrote: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:27:48 -0800 > Brian Harring wrote: > > Simple example of why sets.conf cannot be relied on: > > > > # xorg sets > > [x11-module-rebuild] > > class = portage.sets.dbapi.VariableSet > > world-candidate = false >

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 06 December 2011 17:27:48 Brian Harring wrote: > On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 05:06:33PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 December 2011 16:52:55 Brian Harring wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 03:52:07PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 06 December 2011 14:28:0

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 23:34:28 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > We wanted to replace that class with some global/generic vars, noone > was interested in cooperating. Especially the-one-whose-name-shall- > -not-be-spoken-aloud-or-he-will-come-with-his-metaphores. As I recall, the pretty much universal res

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:27:48 -0800 Brian Harring wrote: > On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 05:06:33PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 December 2011 16:52:55 Brian Harring wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 03:52:07PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 06 December 2011 14:28:02

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 05:06:33PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 06 December 2011 16:52:55 Brian Harring wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 03:52:07PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Tuesday 06 December 2011 14:28:02 Zac Medico wrote: > > > > On 12/06/2011 10:04 AM, Mike Frysinger

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 06 December 2011 16:52:55 Brian Harring wrote: > On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 03:52:07PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 December 2011 14:28:02 Zac Medico wrote: > > > On 12/06/2011 10:04 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > what might be interesting is if we had a "Gentoo default

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 03:52:07PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 06 December 2011 14:28:02 Zac Medico wrote: > > On 12/06/2011 10:04 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > what might be interesting is if we had a "Gentoo default" set which is > > > what would come in a stage3 rather than the c

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 06 December 2011 14:28:02 Zac Medico wrote: > On 12/06/2011 10:04 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > what might be interesting is if we had a "Gentoo default" set which is > > what would come in a stage3 rather than the current "stage3 is the > > system set". then we could move virtual/ssh ou

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/06/2011 10:04 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > what might be interesting is if we had a "Gentoo default" set which is what > would come in a stage3 rather than the current "stage3 is the system set". > then we could move virtual/ssh out of the system set and into the "Gentoo > default" set so

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > what might be interesting is if we had a "Gentoo default" set which is what > would come in a stage3 rather than the current "stage3 is the system set". > then we could move virtual/ssh out of the system set and into the "Gentoo > default" se

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 06 December 2011 11:50:52 Alec Warner wrote: > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> ncurses is no longer part of the system deps. in practice, this > >> probably won't make a difference to most people since b

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Alec Warner wrote: >> Whatever man, look at all this bloat! >> >> virtual/ssh > > Great - I can remote access a system that doesn't boot. > >> sys-apps/kbd > > Full editing of config files works with my origina

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > Whatever man, look at all this bloat! > > virtual/ssh Great - I can remote access a system that doesn't boot. > sys-apps/kbd Full editing of config files works with my original IBM PC keyboard (Estonian version)! > sys-apps/texinfo I can u

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> ncurses is no longer part of the system deps.  in practice, this probably >> won't make a difference to most people since bash itself depends on ncurses, >> but it does make embedded/et

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/ncurses: punted from system in profiles

2011-12-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > ncurses is no longer part of the system deps.  in practice, this probably > won't make a difference to most people since bash itself depends on ncurses, > but it does make embedded/etc... simpler. Hmm, I wonder how much further we'll have t