On Saturday 24 March 2007, Jakub Moc wrote:
> Kevin F. Quinn napsal(a):
> [snip]
>
> See, I don't really care how the reporter feels, if something's not a
> bug, then it's not a bug. Don't invent confusing 'politically correct'
> junk for this just because someone might feel 'offended'.
One issue
Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked
> INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to the Gentoo
> Experience. We've all seen it many times, I'm sure.
I know I'm coming in late on this one, but I can see how having a bug
marked as INVALID wi
On 2007/03/25, Benno Schulenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Precisely. "NOTABUG" sounds less harsh than "INVALID" (for some
> just a little, for others a lot), it is less likely to irk people,
> and it is also used elsewhere, so why not use it instead?
>
Not that i care that much, but imho
Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> I know I've seen many instances where the word INVALID has got
> peoples hackles up, [...] This is the same issue I have with
> "NOTABUG" - it's like saying, "you're wrong, shouldn't have raised
> the report", just perhaps not as in-your-face as INVALID.
Precisely. "NOT
Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Jakub Moc wrote:
>
>> Kevin F. Quinn napsal(a):
>> [snip]
>>
>> See, I don't really care how the reporter feels, if something's not a
>> bug, then it's not a bug.
>>
> In which case it must be a feature, so why not use the keyword FEATURE?
>
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Oh, so resolving 'INVALID' a bug for people that report crap like 'oh,
>> my sci-mathematics/*' thingy got horribly broken with -ffast-math'
>> causes an offense to them? Well, that's a good thing, maybe they'll
>> actually use th
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 00:05:02 +0100
Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh, so resolving 'INVALID' a bug for people that report crap like 'oh,
> my sci-mathematics/*' thingy got horribly broken with -ffast-math'
> causes an offense to them? Well, that's a good thing, maybe they'll
> actually use
Christopher Sawtell napsal(a):
>> See, I don't really care how the reporter feels, if something's not a
>> bug, then it's not a bug.
> In which case it must be a feature, so why not use the keyword FEATURE?
And why use it? Anything else than 'so that we are 'politically
correct'? Sorry, this doesn
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Jakub Moc wrote:
> Kevin F. Quinn napsal(a):
> [snip]
>
> See, I don't really care how the reporter feels, if something's not a
> bug, then it's not a bug.
In which case it must be a feature, so why not use the keyword FEATURE?
> Don't invent confusing 'politically correct'
>
Kevin F. Quinn napsal(a):
[snip]
See, I don't really care how the reporter feels, if something's not a
bug, then it's not a bug. Don't invent confusing 'politically correct'
junk for this just because someone might feel 'offended'.
Thanks.
--
Best regards,
Jakub Moc
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:46:07 +0100
Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:07:08 +0100
> "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Certainly good explanations as to why a bug is being closed are to
> > be encouraged. My issue isn't with that - it's with the way t
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:17:52 +0200
Alin Năstac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> > The problem I have with NOTABUG is pretty much the same problem I
> > have with INVALID - it's not as severe, but it still does the same
> > thing to the user (i.e. slaps him with a wet fish rathe
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:02:48 +0100
Ioannis Aslanidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think that there is a problem of concept. If a bug is marked
> INVALID, it's because it is not a real bug. Marking a bug NOCHANGE or
> NOCHANGEREQUIRED, not only overlaps with other resolutions, but fails
> to bet
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:07:08 +0100
"Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Certainly good explanations as to why a bug is being closed are to be
> encouraged. My issue isn't with that - it's with the way that the
> marking INVALID is perceived, when there's no need to be so harsh.
And NOCH
Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> The problem I have with NOTABUG is pretty much the same problem I have
> with INVALID - it's not as severe, but it still does the same thing to
> the user (i.e. slaps him with a wet fish rather than a frozen one).
>
>
Maybe, just maybe, the problem is not with the resolut
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:48:25 -0400
Michael Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 06:34:21PM +0100, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> > People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked
> > INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to the Gentoo
> > Experience. W
I think that there is a problem of concept. If a bug is marked INVALID,
it's because it is not a real bug. Marking a bug NOCHANGE or
NOCHANGEREQUIRED, not only overlaps with other resolutions, but fails to
better explain the reason why the bug was closed, whereas INVALID indeed
means that the r
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:14:38 +0100
Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:34:21 +0100
> "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked
> > INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to the Gentoo
>
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 06:34:21PM +0100, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked
> INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to the Gentoo
> Experience. We've all seen it many times, I'm sure.
>
But sometimes, just sometimes, the bugs are ab
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:34:21 +0100
"Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked
> INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to the Gentoo
> Experience. We've all seen it many times, I'm sure.
>
> Arguably no bug is invalid i
Kevin F. Quinn napsal(a):
> Arguably no bug is invalid in the normal sense - if someone raises an
> issue, they have an issue, regardless what we think of it. To that end
> I'd like to propose bugzilla be reconfigured to use the phrase
> "NOCHANGE" instead of "INVALID". NOCHANGE would indicate th
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