Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Build dependencies and upgrades.

2011-10-13 Thread Zac Medico
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Mike Frysinger posted on Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:39:52 -0400 as excerpted: > >> i thought there was talk of an automatic @security set at some point, >> but not sure if that got anywhere. Marius (genone) added @security support

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Build dependencies and upgrades.

2011-10-13 Thread Zac Medico
On 10/12/2011 08:20 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 12 October 2011 11:09:56 Zac Medico wrote: >> How about if we add a `emerge --upgrade` target that is analogous to >> `apt-get upgrade`? > > isn't that already done with @installed ? `emerge --upgrade @installed` At this time, @install

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Build dependencies and upgrades.

2011-10-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 13 October 2011 01:33:07 Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:20:23 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 October 2011 11:09:56 Zac Medico wrote: > > > How about if we add a `emerge --upgrade` target that is analogous to > > > `apt-get upgrade`? > > > > isn't that alr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Build dependencies and upgrades.

2011-10-12 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:20:23 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 12 October 2011 11:09:56 Zac Medico wrote: > > How about if we add a `emerge --upgrade` target that is analogous to > > `apt-get upgrade`? > > isn't that already done with @installed ? `emerge --upgrade > @installed` -mike

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Build dependencies and upgrades.

2011-10-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 12 October 2011 23:26:28 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 October 2011 11:09:56 Zac Medico wrote: > >> How about if we add a `emerge --upgrade` target that is analogous to > >> `apt-get upgrade`? > > > > isn't that alre

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Build dependencies and upgrades.

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 12 October 2011 11:09:56 Zac Medico wrote: >> How about if we add a `emerge --upgrade` target that is analogous to >> `apt-get upgrade`? > > isn't that already done with @installed ?  `emerge --upgrade @installed` Well, you'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Build dependencies and upgrades.

2011-10-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 12 October 2011 11:09:56 Zac Medico wrote: > How about if we add a `emerge --upgrade` target that is analogous to > `apt-get upgrade`? isn't that already done with @installed ? `emerge --upgrade @installed` -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Build dependencies and upgrades.

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Zac Medico wrote: > How about if we add a `emerge --upgrade` target that is analogous to > `apt-get upgrade`? If we hide the new defaults behind a target like > --upgrade, rather than change the defaults globally, then it allows > people's existing scripted and ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Build dependencies and upgrades.

2011-10-12 Thread Zac Medico
On 10/12/2011 07:10 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > That leads me to another concern. The defaults should be the safe > options, and the options should be to make the actions less safe. > > In my thinking the most conservative options right now are either > emerge -uDN world or emerge -uDN --with-bdeps

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Build dependencies and upgrades.

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > That's probably why there's no mention in the docs other than the portage > manpage.  Now that we have swift back, he's applying some much needed > attention to the docs tree and its coming back into shape. =:^) I definitely a